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| Online | Last Post | Last Page |  | Jan 2015 | Dec 2014 | LINK |  | Milestone Posts |  |  |  | Milestone Years |  |  |  | Location |  |  |  | Signature |  | TO BE FIXED |  |  | Quote TRB="TRB"Didn't take it as a dig!  
 
   
 You may be right, and it has all been considered and is one of many angles we have open to us, but only if it takes us closer to what we want from the process. AFAWK the SoS has an overview on this process - and is not best pleased. If we continue to get nothing, then we will act, but we hope it wont come to that.
 
 I took your post as being one more indicative of resignation to the idea that nothing will ever happen - there are plenty who would agree with that and I don't blame them, but, from the amount of meetings and pace of activity - which has steadily built over the past few months, we remain hopeful that we can come to an acceptable deal at the end of this process. If we do, it will have all been down to the efforts of those who contributed to the petition, the letters and all the other showings of support we have had over the years - even my friend NGB4C.
 
 The likelihood is that the land that NC sits on would have got PP in any case - with or without us, as the land was prime for removal from the GB and turning into development land. There are other bits of the site which are more valuable which may not have got PP and these remain undeveloped for now, but if, IF, we get a stadium, be it at BV or NM, out of this it will all have been a worthwhile process.
 
 Remember, no-one was offering us a penny towards a stadium once the council pulled Thornes off the table and that is only about 5/6 years ago! Its a short time in development terms - as our friends down the lane will learn with their current proposal - they still have fans who think they'll be building it next year!!! Patience is everything in this game - I've had to learn that!'"
 
Worthwhile process! 
If you get BV and not NM how about telling the local residents on Newmarket who have sold up ,lost thousands and who are going to live in an industrial est it's Worthwhile , the very first meeting about NM  it was " how do we get this out of green belt" so don't kid yourself . 
So much weight was put on the development because of the stadium and the way wakefeild was going to end childhood obesity but wanted a fast food outlet 200 yards away. 
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| Online | Last Post | Last Page |  | Oct 2023 | Oct 2023 | LINK |  | Milestone Posts |  |  |  | Milestone Years |  |  |  | Location |  |  |  | Signature |  | TO BE FIXED |  |  | Quote vastman="vastman"Wrong Bren, sorry but you are. It's public noise that got us this far - admittedly that no longer seems as far as it once did - but that's how we got here.
 From 2006 to 2010 (Newmarket) we made an utter nuisance of ourselves and it really worked - see SWAG website archive - what is a shame is we thought we no longer needed to do that and had all involved on side - I don't know but I guess that's not the case anymore.
 
 People do care but only as long as it's in their short term memories and that's where we have not been for a while.
 
 Whether we can change things who knows but I know Box hated us for a while because we really showed him up - must be worth another go.'"
 
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        | Rank | Posts | Team |  | Club Coach | 7431 | Wakefield Trinity |  | Joined | Service | Reputation |  | May 2005 | 20 years |  |  
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |  | Aug 2025 | Jan 2025 | LINK |  | Milestone Posts |  |  |  | Milestone Years |  |  |  | Location |  |  |  | Signature |  | TO BE FIXED |  |  | Quote The Avenger="The Avenger"18 months ago, Upon having it confirmed that the Newcold building was outside the S106 agreement and wouldn't contribute a square inch toward the trigger point of the stadium build, I sad that YCP and Colin Mackie had revealed his hand and it was time to remove the gloves and go for the throat.
 We should have gone straight to the press, the Council, MPs, the Secretary of States Office and any other official body that might reveal YCPs duplicity and put pressure on them and Peter Box.'"
 
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        | Rank | Posts | Team |  | International Star | 5250 | Wakefield Trinity |  | Joined | Service | Reputation |  | Mar 2014 | 12 years |  |  
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I offered my opinion on here, it was done in good faith and with the best of intentions. It wasn't done as any form of criticism of anyone, in fact I went out if my way to illustrate that point, it was just an opinion.
 
In the end I trusted those who were shouldering the work on behalf of all of us, just like everyone else on here. In fact I toned down my opinions and kept them to myself at the request of those who would be sitting at a table opposite Colin Mackie.
 
My opinion throughout has been the same but I've said little on the matter.
 
Why so interested, are you suggesting I should form a breakaway group and do things separately from and without consultation with the ST.
 
Professionally I have a conflict of interest in fighting this corner publicly, it would possibly cost me my job to speak out and do anything using my real name, it would certainly set me on the outside of my work colleagues were I to be in any way prominent in a protest. |  |  |  |  |  | 
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        | Rank | Posts | Team |  | Club Coach | 10926 | London Skolars |  | Joined | Service | Reputation |  | Jun 2005 | 20 years |  |  
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |  | Dec 2021 | Feb 2019 | LINK |  | Milestone Posts |  |  |  | Milestone Years |  |  |  | Location |  |  |  | Signature |  | TO BE FIXED |  |  | Quote The Avenger="The Avenger"I offered my opinion on here, it was done in good faith and with the best of intentions. It wasn't done as any form of criticism of anyone, in fact I went out if my way to illustrate that point, it was just an opinion.
 In the end I trusted those who were shouldering the work on behalf of all of us, just like everyone else on here. In fact I toned down my opinions and kept them to myself at the request of those who would be sitting at a table opposite Colin Mackie.
 
 My opinion throughout has been the same but I've said little on the matter.
 
 Why so interested, are you suggesting I should form a breakaway group and do things separately from and without consultation with the ST.
 
 Professionally I have a conflict of interest in fighting this corner publicly, it would possibly cost me my job to speak out and do anything using my real name, it would certainly set me on the outside of my work colleagues were I to be in any way prominent in a protest.'"
 
As I said on another thread, we don't have a monopoly on the 'right' way to do things, but we have fought this campaign for 11 years now and are best placed to judge all of the information / people we are dealing with. We haven't always agreed, in fact we have very different opinions within the group, but we are able to reach consensus which is why we've managed to keep going this long.
 
I don't hold anything against anyone have a different POV, all I ask is that people accept that any decisions / actions we take are made with the best intention of trying to put us in a position to achieve the best result possible for our club!
 
The 22nd is a pivotal day, and not just the public meeting, until the very day itself we will be unsure of exactly what we are going to say, albeit we have a fair idea! |  |  |  |  |  |  |  | 
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 In the end I trusted those who were shouldering the work on behalf of all of us, just like everyone else on here. In fact I toned down my opinions and kept them to myself at the request of those who would be sitting at a table opposite Colin Mackie.
 
 My opinion throughout has been the same but I've said little on the matter.
 
 Why so interested, are you suggesting I should form a breakaway group and do things separately from and without consultation with the ST.
 
 Professionally I have a conflict of interest in fighting this corner publicly, it would possibly cost me my job to speak out and do anything using my real name, it would certainly set me on the outside of my work colleagues were I to be in any way prominent in a protest.'"
 
There are a few of us who felt the same way as you but it was not as simple as doing what you suggested or we would have done it after Newcold.
 
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