Re: Lenegan - No crisis, great squad : Wed Mar 13, 2019 10:43 am  

Smalls wrote:

Not if he’s replaced with a marquee.

Only if he’s replaced with a homegrown marquee:

“- Marquee Player – Each Super League and Championship Club is permitted to have two Marquee Players whose Salary Cap Value is limited to £150,000 (or £75,000 if Club Trained).”

£75,000 on the cap for a player of George’s quality is superb. IF we did go for Maloney, he’d count for £150,000 (on the assumption he’d be paid much more than £150,000).

It’s a risk, but we could replace him with a Union player. But then the issue comes down to actual paying the wage, rather than the salary cap:

“- New Talent Pool Dispensation – Any Player who has not previously played Rugby League is given a value of £0 in the first year of his contract and at 50% of his true value in the second year.”

Re: Lenegan - No crisis, great squad : Wed Mar 13, 2019 11:59 am  

NickyKiss wrote:

Moley reckons the fee is £250k

Considering the money washing around in the NRL I think we can be pretty miffed at that tbh. They’re buying out the last two years of his contract for about a years worth of his salary. We don’t see £100m footballers being bought for £10m so not sure why we’d allow it (on a much lesser scale obviously).

It is £250k. We were asking for a higher fee initially but Canberra pulled out so we lowered it, I don't think it was ever £500k though.

Re: Lenegan - No crisis, great squad : Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:09 pm  

WARRIOR5 wrote:

Only if he’s replaced with a homegrown marquee:

“- Marquee Player – Each Super League and Championship Club is permitted to have two Marquee Players whose Salary Cap Value is limited to £150,000 (or £75,000 if Club Trained).”

£75,000 on the cap for a player of George’s quality is superb. IF we did go for Maloney, he’d count for £150,000 (on the assumption he’d be paid much more than £150,000).

It’s a risk, but we could replace him with a Union player. But then the issue comes down to actual paying the wage, rather than the salary cap:

“- New Talent Pool Dispensation – Any Player who has not previously played Rugby League is given a value of £0 in the first year of his contract and at 50% of his true value in the second year.”

Rules out George Ford then as he was in our academy but also Bradford briefly I think?

Re: Lenegan - No crisis, great squad : Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:10 pm  

Wigg'n wrote:

It is £250k. We were asking for a higher fee initially but Canberra pulled out so we lowered it, I don't think it was ever £500k though.

Was 500,000 AUD I think which is just over 250,000 GBP

Re: Lenegan - No crisis, great squad : Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:16 pm  

RichieS wrote:

Rules out George Ford then as he was in our academy but also Bradford briefly I think?

Isnt it if they havent played on a professional contract? Didnt Burrell play in Saints academy?

Re: Lenegan - No crisis, great squad : Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:18 pm  

RichieS wrote:

Rules out George Ford then as he was in our academy but also Bradford briefly I think?

Think this is where the salary cap regulations are a little unclear, as they can apply discretion. Typically they shouldn’t have played first grade, academy or in “RFL Sponsored” competitions, but again can apply discretion and grant dispensation.

I’m sure Luther Burrell played for Hudds at a young age but Wire have been granted dispensation.

You’d like to think the RFL would allow it because of what such a signing would do for the game, but you never know...

Re: Lenegan - No crisis, great squad : Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:32 pm  

[Gareth] wrote:

Isnt it if they havent played on a professional contract? Didnt Burrell play in Saints academy?

No he played for Huddersfield aged 14

Re: Lenegan - No crisis, great squad : Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:42 pm  

RichieS wrote:

Rules out George Ford then as he was in our academy but also Bradford briefly I think?

George never played for Wigan academy, his brother may have been at Bradford briefly. You're not getting confused with Stephen Myler are you?

Re: Lenegan - No crisis, great squad : Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:47 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

George never played for Wigan academy, his brother may have been at Bradford briefly. You're not getting confused with Stephen Myler are you?

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It has been a long journey from Saddleworth Rangers where George Ford was first involved in rugby at the age of four.

He moved on to Wigan Warriors and Bradford Bulls and studied for A levels in English, PE and psychology at Rishworth School, Halifax and was later a contemporary of Owen Farrell at St George’s School, Harpenden.”

“Both boys remained RL players, though, as George had scholarships at Warrington, Wigan and Bradford while Joe was at Bradford where he played for the under18s.”

Definitely on Wigan’s books at some point growing up, not necessarily the academy - probably means he qualifies as new talent... not that it’ll happen though.

Re: Lenegan - No crisis, great squad : Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:51 pm  

WARRIOR5 wrote:

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It has been a long journey from Saddleworth Rangers where George Ford was first involved in rugby at the age of four.

He moved on to Wigan Warriors and Bradford Bulls and studied for A levels in English, PE and psychology at Rishworth School, Halifax and was later a contemporary of Owen Farrell at St George’s School, Harpenden.”

“Both boys remained RL players, though, as George had scholarships at Warrington, Wigan and Bradford while Joe was at Bradford where he played for the under18s.”

Definitely on Wigan’s books at some point growing up, not necessarily the academy.

He never played for Wigan academy, which was my point. I don't recall him ever being in the scholarship side either, it seems strange to be at three different clubs at scholarship level.