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Re: Squad Numbers Released : Wed Jan 17, 2018 11:22 am  
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Last season people's expectations of Escare where very low and everyone was pleasantly surprised by his form. Some posters even suggesting that he deserved a place ahead of Sam Tomkins (which was ludicrous). This year things are different.

Expectations are now quite high for Morgan. My gut feeling is that his form in the Catalans game was more like his normal game. I hope I'm wrong about this, but I don't think he's good enough for the first 13/17.


Totally agree. I was pleased when he was signed as cover for Tomkins etc. I wouldn't have been as happy if we'd signed him as a starting FB. The FB is arguably the key to the attack operating both flanks, often the best attacker in the team is now the FB, for me, this has to be Sam.
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Re: Squad Numbers Released : Wed Jan 17, 2018 11:46 am  
Do we know what Escare's injury status is? I thought he was back fit, but the squad number press release seemed to suggest not.

Edit - Never mind, he's in the squad for the Leigh game
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Re: Squad Numbers Released : Wed Jan 17, 2018 12:48 pm  
Wane has said he is back in training but not Match fit for the start of the season.
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Re: Squad Numbers Released : Wed Jan 17, 2018 12:54 pm  
On the Wigan Warriors Official Board it shows the images of last years players and not this years you would think that they would update it for this year.
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Re: Squad Numbers Released : Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:00 pm  
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Re: Squad Numbers Released : Wed Jan 17, 2018 2:35 pm  
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On the Wigan Warriors Official Board it shows the images of last years players and not this years you would think that they would update it for this year.


Clubs are only just doing head shots around now so would expect it to be updated next couple of weeks.
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Re: Squad Numbers Released : Wed Jan 17, 2018 3:28 pm  
For me Escare is speedier than ST and offers more in attack from FB. Realistically speaking he should be the future of the FB for Wigan.

I genuinely believe ST is nowhere near the player he was before he left for the NRL. He’s only 28 coming on 29 but age is catching up to him and a move to the halves is the logical step for him where he will flourish once again. He WAS a FB, he isn’t one anymore.
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Re: Squad Numbers Released : Wed Jan 17, 2018 3:38 pm  
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For me Escare is speedier than ST and offers more in attack from FB. Realistically speaking he should be the future of the FB for Wigan.

I genuinely believe ST is nowhere near the player he was before he left for the NRL. He’s only 28 coming on 29 but age is catching up to him and a move to the halves is the logical step for him where he will flourish once again. He WAS a FB, he isn’t one anymore.


Don't agree with this. Escaré may be faster, but just because he's faster doesn't mean he offers more. Tomkins may have lost some pace due to his injury, but he's still great with the ball in hand and much more creative in his passing game than Escaré.
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Re: Squad Numbers Released : Wed Jan 17, 2018 5:06 pm  
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Don't agree with this. Escaré may be faster, but just because he's faster doesn't mean he offers more. Tomkins may have lost some pace due to his injury


His speed ensures he can link up with the attack better. Tomkins last season was slow and predictable. It wasn’t exciting, wasn’t good and certainly was not effective. Prior to his injury, Escare’s link up play was good and a lot better than Tomkins’ - I’m not saying it was the finished article but it was a lot more promising than Tomkins.

he's still great with the ball in hand and much more creative in his passing game than Escaré.


You’ve just proven why he should be in the halves with this statement.
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Re: Squad Numbers Released : Wed Jan 17, 2018 8:03 pm  
Escare was good and much better then expected but I wouldn’t go overboard. You have to judge both players at fullback on actual performance and not expectation. I want Sam in the halves as much as the next man but he’s still a better fullback then Escare, it’s just the team would probably be better with them both in for my money.

To say Sam Tomkins wasn’t effective in his games at fullback last year is again judging on expectation. The bloke got 5 try’s and 7 assists in 12 games so he got a try/assist per game. The best fullback in superleague got 11 try’s and 18 assists in 28 games so just a slightly better ratio. If you look at Escare he got 4 try’s and 3 assists in 13 games and another player people rave about in Jamie Shaul got 17 try’s and only 4 assists in 29 league fixtures. Those stats aren’t the be all and end all of course but it’s a major factor in any fullbacks game and I think we’d all agree that defensively Sam has really improved.

As I say I’d want him in the halves but he’s still a really good fullback. Those stats highlight how much performance vs expectation can distort people’s views.
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