Re: Chairman's address : Fri Oct 06, 2017 11:40 pm  

jonh wrote:

Ignorant.

Style over squad.

Madge over Noble.

I will have a pint of whatever you have had.
So the best squad in SL has won 1 trophy in 4 years.
How does that work?
It is a total utter nonsense that we have the best squad in the competition.
The same tripe has been rolled out for the past few years.
We are not particularly successful and play a style that is alien to the majority of supporters.

Re: Chairman's address : Sat Oct 07, 2017 12:54 am  

Itchy Arsenal wrote:

I will have a pint of whatever you have had.
So the best squad in SL has won 1 trophy in 4 years.
How does that work?
It is a total utter nonsense that we have the best squad in the competition.
The same tripe has been rolled out for the past few years.
We are not particularly successful and play a style that is alien to the majority of supporters.

Clueless. However you are entitled to your opinion.

Re: Chairman's address : Sat Oct 07, 2017 11:11 am  

Itchy Arsenal wrote:

I will have a pint of whatever you have had.
So the best squad in SL has won 1 trophy in 4 years.
How does that work?
It is a total utter nonsense that we have the best squad in the competition.
The same tripe has been rolled out for the past few years.
We are not particularly successful and play a style that is alien to the majority of supporters.

Had a few beers last night and wasn't at my most eloquent. I apologise.

You have kind of made my point for me.

I personally don't think the squad is the problem. I'm fairly happy with the squad.

Yes we could do with some improvements in key areas mainly with a controlling half but if we dont bring anyone in I wouldn't be panicking.

The issue is with the negative dull style that we play, the playing staff will never reach their potential under such instruction.

Wane is staying that is clear, his and the coaching staffs challenge is to play a style that gets the best out of the players something he has failed to do so far.

Re: Chairman's address : Sat Oct 07, 2017 11:30 am  

For me we need a couple of x factor players to spark our attack. Wigan have been built on defence over the past few years and injuries apart when we have our strongest team on the park we can defend as good as any team. So the attack I think is simple to solve.

Escare to 1

Williams at 6 playing as a 2nd receiver no a left or right half but across the park

Sam at 7 leading the attack.

Micky Mac as starting 9 with Tommy coming as impact 9 from the bench. Powell battling it out with them both as competition for places

Lockers at 13.

That spine would be easily good enough to win SL and re ignite the Wigan Fans enthusiasm. Why do I feel there is only me can see it.

Re: Chairman's address : Sat Oct 07, 2017 1:12 pm  

Tricky Dicky wrote:

For me we need a couple of x factor players to spark our attack. Wigan have been built on defence over the past few years and injuries apart when we have our strongest team on the park we can defend as good as any team. So the attack I think is simple to solve.

Escare to 1

Williams at 6 playing as a 2nd receiver no a left or right half but across the park

Sam at 7 leading the attack.

Micky Mac as starting 9 with Tommy coming as impact 9 from the bench. Powell battling it out with them both as competition for places

Lockers at 13.

That spine would be easily good enough to win SL and re ignite the Wigan Fans enthusiasm. Why do I feel there is only me can see it.

That's all great, but it's the players off the ball that need to make the effort, they need to be working, giving options and creating doubt. Without this you get 1 man rugby with the ball just going through the hands. That is our biggest issue in my eyes, it's the entire way we set up, or don't as this season has progressed. Craft has been thrown out of the window and we've tried to play a posession and territory based game, thing is that failed as our forwards are as soft as sponge and our kicking game is dire at times. We seem to realise this each game and they end up forcing the pass trying to look for things that aren't there.

Re: Chairman's address : Sat Oct 07, 2017 3:10 pm  

jonh wrote:

Had a few beers last night and wasn't at my most eloquent. I apologise.

You have kind of made my point for me.

I personally don't think the squad is the problem. I'm fairly happy with the squad.

Yes we could do with some improvements in key areas mainly with a controlling half but if we dont bring anyone in I wouldn't be panicking.

The issue is with the negative dull style that we play, the playing staff will never reach their potential under such instruction.

Wane is staying that is clear, his and the coaching staffs challenge is to play a style that gets the best out of the players something he has failed to do so far.

No problem john.
It would be a boring world if we all thought the same.
We are both passionate about the club but just have different views on the way forward.
Is SW stays I have have no problems as long as we change our style and add a few players.

Re: Chairman's address : Sun Oct 08, 2017 9:04 am  

ChrisA wrote:

That's all great, but it's the players off the ball that need to make the effort, they need to be working, giving options and creating doubt. Without this you get 1 man rugby with the ball just going through the hands. That is our biggest issue in my eyes, it's the entire way we set up, or don't as this season has progressed. Craft has been thrown out of the window and we've tried to play a posession and territory based game, thing is that failed as our forwards are as soft as sponge and our kicking game is dire at times. We seem to realise this each game and they end up forcing the pass trying to look for things that aren't there.

To be the best we must be ruthless and honest. Micky and Tommy must both be on far more than Sam Powell. Get rid. Use their freed up funds to bring in a real 9. Sam to back up.

Needs to be a genuine look at our squad and coaching staff this offseason.

Currently things aren’t good enough.

Re: Chairman's address : Sun Oct 08, 2017 10:59 am  

Looking back to the Hull game that we just held on for, with about twenty minutes to go, their forwards were rampaging forward and we looked spent. When you see our props making a handful of carries on a game it is a wonder that we look so unfit. I know that TT used to make mistakes trying to offload but I preferred that to our lack of ambition. Whatever happened to "always expect the ball"?
A lot of posts say get rid of player x. We are talking about contracted players who have rights that we would not wish to have taken from us. That being the case we need to use those players well. Next season we will have at least four bookers on the roll, if we include Tommy in that. It gives us the opportunity to take players out of the firing line and rest then properly. Ganson deserves more game time and hopefully Shorrocks will stay fit enough to have a run in the halves.

Re: Chairman's address : Sun Oct 08, 2017 11:15 am  

Levrier wrote:

Looking back to the Hull game that we just held on for, with about twenty minutes to go, their forwards were rampaging forward and we looked spent. When you see our props making a handful of carries on a game it is a wonder that we look so unfit. I know that TT used to make mistakes trying to offload but I preferred that to our lack of ambition. Whatever happened to "always expect the ball"?
A lot of posts say get rid of player x. We are talking about contracted players who have rights that we would not wish to have taken from us. That being the case we need to use those players well. Next season we will have at least four bookers on the roll, if we include Tommy in that. It gives us the opportunity to take players out of the firing line and rest then properly. Ganson deserves more game time and hopefully Shorrocks will stay fit enough to have a run in the halves.

I would never suggest that players should just be made redundant. But in some cases, selling them might be an option.

That said, in most cases I doubt there'd be many takers.

I must be honest - the fact that in 2018 we'll find ourselves with four hookers, two of them has-beens, one of them bang-average and the other untried, makes me wonder if we should simply anticipate more of the same underachievement. Four hookers taking up cap space, and a barely a halfback or a prop worthy of the name!

Re: Chairman's address : Sun Oct 08, 2017 11:24 am  

Cruncher wrote:

I would never suggest that players should just be made redundant. But in some cases, selling them might be an option.

That said, in most cases I doubt there'd be many takers.

I must be honest - the fact that in 2018 we'll find ourselves with four hookers, two of them has-beens, one of them bang-average and the other untried, makes me wonder if we should simply anticipate more of the same underachievement. Four hookers taking up cap space, and a barely a halfback or a prop worthy of the name!

I would like Wigan to sign Kruise Leeming, he has a good running AND passing game, also does his fair share of the defensive work.