Re: Goal kicker : Wed Jun 14, 2017 11:29 am  

moto748 wrote:

I've just never been much of a fan of Hodkinson. He is (or, rather, was, he seems to have fallen away lately, from what I can see) a good goal-kicker, but doesn't offer that much as a half in my book. Someone like Blake Green for example, who is no NRL superstar, but a good solid pro, is a much better footballer than Hodkinson in my book.

And I don't think Newcastle would beat *most* SL sides.

Correct he is a good goal kicker and offers not much else this is similar to what Matty Smith offered but I hear many saying "Why we let Matty Smith go" he's goal kicking werent to the high level many Wigan supporters wanted. The question was who available and I think Trent Hodkinson would be available but we would have to drop Tommy or Powell with one losing there place or becoming the bench hooker. There are many other players who are good goal kickers but dont offer much more...........Sneyd is a perfect example and is why they needed to get Kelly in along side him as a running 6 because apart from kicking he dont really offer much else.

Blake Green was a good 6 but he isnt a goal kicker so this comparison doesnt make sense.

We need to decide if a goal kicker is needed more than a better overall player........I think the only position up for question going forward will be scrum half to when I expect Jake Shorrocks to take the shirt and become our goal kicker.

At the end of the date there is more change of Pat Richards coming out of retirement than us signing a goal kicker because as we have seen with recent signings they are either past players (wanes mates) or project players (Isa, Escare, Navarette)

Re: Goal kicker : Wed Jun 14, 2017 11:38 am  

Geoff wrote:

http://www.wigantoday.net/sport/rugby-league/wigan-warriors/williams-welcomes-time-to-work-on-goal-kicking-1-8593586

Another reason why Wane has to go

Re: Goal kicker : Wed Jun 14, 2017 11:50 am  

Trent Hodgkinson maybe a good shout or even someone like Jack Owens, won't take up much space on the cap, and can fill in a centre or wing

Re: Goal kicker : Wed Jun 14, 2017 11:58 am  

Chris_H wrote:

even someone like Jack Owens, won't take up much space on the cap, and can fill in a centre or wing

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Re: Goal kicker : Wed Jun 14, 2017 12:26 pm  

Chris_H wrote:

Trent Hodgkinson maybe a good shout or even someone like Jack Owens, won't take up much space on the cap, and can fill in a centre or wing

You would want three of Manfredi/Gelling/Gildart/Burgess/Marshall/Davies sat in the stands whilst Jack Owens has a guaranteed spot just because he can kick?

IMO you pick your best team, then the best kicker among them does that job. The best three or so kickers should always be staying back after training and practicing with a kicking coach.

Re: Goal kicker : Wed Jun 14, 2017 2:04 pm  

The Whiffy Kipper wrote:

Another reason why Wane has to go

Please do is all a favour and close your pointless account on this forum!

Re: Goal kicker : Wed Jun 14, 2017 2:10 pm  

Grimmy wrote:

You would want three of Manfredi/Gelling/Gildart/Burgess/Marshall/Davies sat in the stands whilst Jack Owens has a guaranteed spot just because he can kick?

IMO you pick your best team, then the best kicker among them does that job. The best three or so kickers should always be staying back after training and practicing with a kicking coach.

That's my point really, we all would all love decent/successful goal kicker at the club who can kick, but we cant "build players" to suit our requirements or bring back inferior players just because they have kicked a goal! If a goal kicking second row became available would you drop Farrell or Bateman to accommodate them no. As you say the likes Williams, Marshall, Powell should be practising every spare minute they have. I think long term Jake Shorrocks will get the job but until he is getting regular game time to do so we will have to develop what we have, yes people will complain at missed kicks and yes it will cost us games, but its a bigger picture and not as simple as "we need a kicker"

Re: Goal kicker : Wed Jun 14, 2017 3:18 pm  

Ashton Bears wrote:

Have we got a kicking coach.

Hampo?

Re: Goal kicker : Wed Jun 14, 2017 4:17 pm  

Some people on here are a joke.Ah Van?Owens?
I agree with Wane over not picking a player just because he can kick goals and I'm pretty sure every coach thinks the same.
We have had a few weeks of shocking kicking but it's not cost us,Williams with practice should be able to get to 70% completion which will do.

Re: Goal kicker : Wed Jun 14, 2017 4:42 pm  

If we haven't got a kicker then work on plays that score closer to the post..... simples...... I should have been a coach