Re: Wigan v Widnes - Match postponed - OH NO IT ISN'T! : Sun Feb 26, 2017 12:01 am  

Maybe if we played the night before we may have left some divots so that rather than getting 0 shots on target one of them may have hit the said divot and headed towards the goal.....

Re: Wigan v Widnes - Match postponed - OH NO IT ISN'T! : Sun Feb 26, 2017 12:11 am  

post wrote:

Its time we had our own ground, I don't see what the issue is as it's us who will be paying for it over the next god knows how many years.

If Leigh can do it and we can't, what's going on there then? I'm sick of playing second fiddle to the football now, it's beyond a joke. Add to that we can't have homecomings or testimonial games at the DW or amateur cup games or academy games either at the ground.

We need our own ground.

Leigh don't have their own ground.
It's Wigan councils

If your going to throw out analogies then make sure there's some fact behind them.

As for owning our own ground I would have thought suitable land, planning permissions and possibly 50/100 million pound of funding may be "a couple of issues".

As most people know I'm not one for criticising until all the facts are known.
Stark reality here is that of all the people in the world I'd have least thought would have made this mistake it would be Ian leneghan. He's usually a dot the i's type.person.

But there's no excuse as far as I can see.
If he's any sense he'll wait till the outcome of any RFL investigation and then hold his hands up and take any criticism etc. That comes his way.

Moving forward is another matter but in the short term we need to make the best of the situation and deal with it better than this.

Re: Wigan v Widnes - Match postponed - OH NO IT ISN'T! : Sun Feb 26, 2017 1:13 am  

Jukesays wrote:

Leigh don't have their own ground.
It's Wigan councils

If your going to throw out analogies then make sure there's some fact behind them.

As for owning our own ground I would have thought suitable land, planning permissions and possibly 50/100 million pound of funding may be "a couple of issues".

As most people know I'm not one for criticising until all the facts are known.
Stark reality here is that of all the people in the world I'd have least thought would have made this mistake it would be Ian leneghan. He's usually a dot the i's type.person.

But there's no excuse as far as I can see.
If he's any sense he'll wait till the outcome of any RFL investigation and then hold his hands up and take any criticism etc. That comes his way.

Moving forward is another matter but in the short term we need to make the best of the situation and deal with it better than this.

In complete agreement regarding IL.

Always been a big fan since he took over and defended him on here when he didn't renew Nobby's contract.

Always a fan of him even after this recent shocking episode because although the fans credit the coaches (Madge/Shaun) IL created the spring clean needed and put everything in place.

The events of this week don't seem to stack up, IL would never normally and hasn't previously put himself and Wigan in such a situation so to me that means the problems were beyond his control and as stated earlier in the thread he was trying to save face...

Re: Wigan v Widnes - Match postponed - OH NO IT ISN'T! : Sun Feb 26, 2017 9:09 am  

post wrote:

Its time we had our own ground, I don't see what the issue is as it's us who will be paying for it over the next god knows how many years.

If Leigh can do it and we can't, what's going on there then? I'm sick of playing second fiddle to the football now, it's beyond a joke. Add to that we can't have homecomings or testimonial games at the DW or amateur cup games or academy games either at the ground.

We need our own ground.

It's not going to happen. The majority that have their own ground have paid for it by selling their old one for housing and built on an area where the land is cheaper. The stadiums also often have input from local authorities and the lottery fund and sometimes EU funding.

We have no ground to sell, the local authority has already contributed to the DW and LSV, I doubt the lottery would contribute as there are already 2 stadiums in the borough and some numpties voted us out of the EU. Anyone have a spare £100 mil or so? That's before anyone starts thinking about a suitable site and planning permission.

The only realistic option we have is investigating the possibility of becoming equal tenants which we clearly are not. That's not the fault of IL, he didn't nearly bankrupt the club 20 years ago nor did he sign the tenancy agreement.

Re: Wigan v Widnes - Match postponed - OH NO IT ISN'T! : Sun Feb 26, 2017 9:14 am  

Trainman wrote:

It's not going to happen. The majority that have their own ground have paid for it by selling their old one for housing and built on an area where the land is cheaper. The stadiums also often have input from local authorities and the lottery fund and sometimes EU funding.

We have no ground to sell, the local authority has already contributed to the DW and LSV, I doubt the lottery would contribute as there are already 2 stadiums in the borough and some numpties voted us out of the EU. Anyone have a spare £100 mil or so? That's before anyone starts thinking about a suitable site and planning permission.

The only realistic option we have is investigating the possibility of becoming equal tenants which we clearly are not. That's not the fault of IL, he didn't nearly bankrupt the club 20 years ago nor did he sign the tenancy agreement.

Where is the "like" button?

Re: Wigan v Widnes - Match postponed - OH NO IT ISN'T! : Sun Feb 26, 2017 11:13 am  

If we had a new stadium would it have standing areas, reasonably priced food and drink and have free parking? Would fans consider an artificial pitch? Could the pitch be surrounded with cameras like hawkeye at the tennis courts for a multitude of camera angles and real time angle comparisons like they use in the aussie bunker? Sadly it's a no to all of the above....

Re: Wigan v Widnes - Match postponed - OH NO IT ISN'T! : Sun Feb 26, 2017 11:20 am  

Trainman wrote:

It's not going to happen. The majority that have their own ground have paid for it by selling their old one for housing and built on an area where the land is cheaper. The stadiums also often have input from local authorities and the lottery fund and sometimes EU funding.

We have no ground to sell, the local authority has already contributed to the DW and LSV, I doubt the lottery would contribute as there are already 2 stadiums in the borough and some numpties voted us out of the EU. Anyone have a spare £100 mil or so? That's before anyone starts thinking about a suitable site and planning permission.

The only realistic option we have is investigating the possibility of becoming equal tenants which we clearly are not. That's not the fault of IL, he didn't nearly bankrupt the club 20 years ago nor did he sign the tenancy agreement.

Excellent post. Didn't Dave Whelan want to buy and renovate Central Park at one point, Jack Robinson said no, the club nose dived and Whelan stepped in and moved us in with the latics? This is a summary of course.

The current predicament goes back to the Jack Robinson Era. IL bought out this situation from Dave Whelan, and which at least give us a home, all be it playing second fiddle at times. DW tried to keep us at central park, he wanted to out money in and move the football in. Jack Robinson said no and nearly ruined us. Had Whelan not come in who knows what would have become of the club.

Re: Wigan v Widnes - Match postponed - OH NO IT ISN'T! : Sun Feb 26, 2017 12:22 pm  

There's a lot of land on the Central Park site that could be developed into a stadium. I think Saints cost around £25 million so not as expensive as some are saying to do the build though I can't see the sale of Orrell funding it. The issue will always be raising funds and the planning permission.

Re: Wigan v Widnes - Match postponed - OH NO IT ISN'T! : Sun Feb 26, 2017 1:16 pm  

If the Latics really are heading South with all the financial grief that implies, wouldn't it be cheaper/more realistic to re-negotiate the stadium share to make us the dominant partner (would mean we'd have to put more into the pot), and spend proper money on a good drainage system at the DW?

Re: Wigan v Widnes - Match postponed - OH NO IT ISN'T! : Sun Feb 26, 2017 1:34 pm  

moto748 wrote:

If the Latics really are heading South with all the financial grief that implies, wouldn't it be cheaper/more realistic to re-negotiate the stadium share to make us the dominant partner (would mean we'd have to put more into the pot), and spend proper money on a good drainage system at the DW?

No.

Latics have a rich owner who is perfectly happy to pump a few quid of his own money into his club.

We have a rich owner.