[DaveO]

Re: Solomona : Wed Nov 30, 2016 10:47 pm  

Aboveusonlypie wrote:

It does seem odd that Sale don't just offer to buy out his contract. Because you would think that if that happened Cas are on to a loser. They can't keep an unhappy player who is being offered say three times his current salary to play another sport.

I wonder how legally binding most of these contracts are anyway. Take the case of Kevin Larroyer at Hull KR. It seems wrong that they can unilaterally cancel a two year contract because they get relegated.

It will be a term of his contract that it can be cancelled if the club is relegated because of the stupid RFL rule that says players from relegated clubs become free agents. It's one of several reasons why P&R is financially such a disaster. This has nothing to do with how binding a contract is (or isn't).

[DaveO]

Re: Solomona : Wed Nov 30, 2016 11:06 pm  

[Gareth] wrote:

If he retires then he isnt in breach of contract. Imagine if another player retired and then went to work as a joiner etc... the company who employed them wouldnt be liable for anything

It is not as simple as that. The courts may well take the view his retirement is nothing more than a ruse to break his contract and/or that Sale induced or advised him him to "retire" that in order to break his contract. Courts interpret the law and don't just apply it in as black and white a manner as you suggest.

The Tony Pulis case has also shown contracts are enforceable (he has been deemed to have broken his by leaving Palace when he did so is not eligible for a £2m bonus and must pay it back).

It's not in Sales's interests to weaken contacts in general anyway. It may seem as they are the ones to benefit if this ruse works but if Josh or Solomona decide they don't like RU Sale would soon whinge if they "retired" from RU leaving them high and dry.

[Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy]

Re: Solomona : Thu Dec 01, 2016 6:51 pm  

http://forums.rlfans.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=600801&start=166 It's Wigan's fault that Solomona has "retired" and is going to Sale. The VT has just reached peak anti-Wigan bollox. Tigerade wrote: Exactly Slugger. It wouldn't surprise me if Wigan were involved in this as well. They have form in these sort of dealings.

http://forums.rlfans.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=600801&start=166 It's Wigan's fault that Solomona has "retired" and is going to Sale. The VT has just reached peak anti-Wigan bollox. Tigerade wrote: Exactly Slugger. It wouldn't surprise me if Wigan were involved in this as well. They have form in these sort of dealings.

Re: Solomona : Thu Dec 01, 2016 7:20 pm  

Haaaaa! I knew it was coming, called it early in this thread!!

Fantastic.

Re: Solomona : Fri Dec 02, 2016 4:44 pm  

So Rosberg has now retired from Formula 1. Maybe he has signed for Sale Sharks too!! (Sorry, couldn't resist)!

Re: Solomona : Sat Dec 03, 2016 1:11 am  

Phil Clarke once played for Wigan. Solomona's agent is Phil Clarke's brother.

Bloody Wigan again!

Re: Solomona : Sat Dec 03, 2016 2:51 pm  

Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy wrote: http://forums.rlfans.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=600801&start=166 It's Wigan's fault that Solomona has "retired" and is going to Sale. The VT has just reached peak anti-Wigan bollox. Absolutely. Because it's our sole purpose in life to undermine Castleford RL. If we don't do that, there's nothing down for us.

Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy wrote: http://forums.rlfans.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=600801&start=166 It's Wigan's fault that Solomona has "retired" and is going to Sale. The VT has just reached peak anti-Wigan bollox. Absolutely. Because it's our sole purpose in life to undermine Castleford RL. If we don't do that, there's nothing down for us.

Re: Solomona : Mon Dec 05, 2016 10:26 am  

DaveO wrote:

It will be a term of his contract that it can be cancelled if the club is relegated because of the stupid RFL rule that says players from relegated clubs become free agents. It's one of several reasons why P&R is financially such a disaster. This has nothing to do with how binding a contract is (or isn't).

I think that came as something of a shock to the player concerned. Hull KR found themselves in a right pickle. I don't think they ever considered relegation right until the 79th minute against Salford. The chairman castigated Walker for getting a move to Saints (I know there were other rather unsavoury considerations, which I won't go into here), lauded Lunt for re-signing quickly whilst casting Larroyer adrift.

I agree that P&R is potentially a financial disaster. It needs to be managed better. I understand that was part of Jamie Peacocks job description.

I know you have been against P&R in the past. How do you feel about Leigh gaining promotion now? It seems to me that their ambition has been rewarded finally, as it should be. Super League shouldn't be a closed shop IMO.

Re: Solomona : Wed Dec 14, 2016 9:28 am  

Sale have well a truly lost a paying customer over this. I pointed out on twitter that as a fan I was disappointed in the way the club has gone about his.

Blocked by the club, blocked by the head of media, blocked by Solomona, blocked by Charnley.

Charnley is the most disappointing as he outwardly said he was trying to wind up Rugby League fans on his twitter. I said it was a poor do if you go out to wind up the people who pay their hard earned money to support him and his his sport. Blocked for telling a guy that fans matter to sportsmen.

All in all, I am retiring from Sale Sharks (along with the rest of my family). I wonder if I get my money for tickets back? Very much doubt it, but I am free to sign with another club now.

Re: Solomona : Wed Dec 14, 2016 11:13 am  

jimlav wrote:

Sale have well a truly lost a paying customer over this. I pointed out on twitter that as a fan I was disappointed in the way the club has gone about his.

Blocked by the club, blocked by the head of media, blocked by Solomona, blocked by Charnley.

Charnley is the most disappointing as he outwardly said he was trying to wind up Rugby League fans on his twitter. I said it was a poor do if you go out to wind up the people who pay their hard earned money to support him and his his sport. Blocked for telling a guy that fans matter to sportsmen.

All in all, I am retiring from Sale Sharks (along with the rest of my family). I wonder if I get my money for tickets back? Very much doubt it, but I am free to sign with another club now.

Fair play to you and I wish more Sale fans were as morally sound as you, but I'm afraid you're very much a minority. And to be honest if Wigan pulled a similar stunt to this (I'm sure we have at some point) I'd probably get over it pretty quickly; how do you get people to care about things like this that have no care for Rugby League?

As for Charnley I'm not surprised as his loyalties are with Union and Sale now so he's not exactly going to be calling them out publicly is he?