Re: Sam Tomkins : Mon Oct 17, 2016 5:17 pm  

CyberPieMan wrote:

Wants to go to France doesn't he?

I think he just wants out of the premiership. Seeing that there's really only two leagues of note in the Northern Hemisphere then he's no other option than looking to France.

IF he's available I'd hope we are looking. The potential to get a decent player whose wages are outside of the cap isn't something to turn your nose up at.

Re: Sam Tomkins : Mon Oct 17, 2016 7:03 pm  

sergeant pepper wrote:

I think he just wants out of the premiership. Seeing that there's really only two leagues of note in the Northern Hemisphere then he's no other option than looking to France.

IF he's available I'd hope we are looking. The potential to get a decent player whose wages are outside of the cap isn't something to turn your nose up at.

His wages would count on the cap.

Re: Sam Tomkins : Mon Oct 17, 2016 7:58 pm  

Christ could you imagine the uproar if we were allowed to sign somebody and their wages weren't counted on the cap?

Pleeeeeeeease let it happen!

Re: Sam Tomkins : Mon Oct 17, 2016 8:22 pm  

Magic Superbeetle wrote:

His wages would count on the cap.

I probably just dreamed it, but was there not a rule where if you signed an RU player then you got special dispensation on the cap?

I'm sure Andy Powell didn't cost us anything.

Re: Sam Tomkins : Mon Oct 17, 2016 8:29 pm  

Madderzahatter wrote:

Mossop was crook before he left tbf. We knew he'd be a risk when we went for him... Has the club actually confirmed what caused the injury - this one seems a fresh one and completely separate to the one he suffered in NZ.

A night out.

Re: Sam Tomkins : Mon Oct 17, 2016 8:40 pm  

sergeant pepper wrote:

I probably just dreamed it, but was there not a rule where if you signed an RU player then you got special dispensation on the cap?

I'm sure Andy Powell didn't cost us anything.

I remember something like the wages in the first year don't count and only 50% in the second year if you sign a player from another sport. I don't know if that's still the case though.

Re: Sam Tomkins : Mon Oct 17, 2016 8:45 pm  

Trainman wrote:

I remember something like the wages in the first year don't count and only 50% in the second year if you sign a player from another sport. I don't know if that's still the case though.

I think this might rule him out... Please correct me if i'm wrong.

An allowance against the calculation of a player’s Salary Cap Value is available under the
provisions of this clause 5.13 as follows:
(a) a person who:
(i) has attained age 19 on 31st August prior to the start of the season (e.g. 31st
August 2012 for the 2013 season),
Operational Rules– Super League Salary Cap Regulations
(ii) has not played Rugby League at any age group or level, subject to the
HSCR’s ability to use his reasonable discretion to override this restriction so
that, non-exhaustively, it would ordinarily apply only to those who have not:
(a) played Rugby League for any participant club or team in a national 1st
tier senior grade competition (including for example, the European
Super League, UK Championships, any of the Australian NRL
competitions, French Elite Championship, New Zealand’s national
competitions),
(b) played for a team in a national Rugby League development competition
(including non-exhaustively, the RFL’s Academy competitions and the
NRL’s National Youth Competition), and/or
(c) participated in and/or played RFL Scholarship age group Rugby League
(or any equivalent Rugby League programmes based in other countries
not covered in (ii) (a) or (b) above)
shall, for the purposes of the allowance set out in this clause 5.12, be known as a
‘New Talent Pool Player’,

Re: Sam Tomkins : Mon Oct 17, 2016 9:26 pm  

Re Sam T, I'm sorry he wont be available for the first month or so it's disappointing.
That has to be offset by the signing of Morgan Escare.
He was certainly the most exciting player at Catalans and has such blistering pace.
A good start to the season from Morgan really will create competition for places.

Re: Sam Tomkins : Tue Oct 18, 2016 7:17 am  

Father Ted wrote:

Re Sam T, I'm sorry he wont be available for the first month or so it's disappointing.
That has to be offset by the signing of Morgan Escare.
He was certainly the most exciting player at Catalans and has such blistering pace.
A good start to the season from Morgan really will create competition for places.

Agreed. Morgans initially coming here on a 1 year deal (Unless IL has put a further year option favouring Wigan in his contract) So to have a shot at impressing the powers that be he will be looking to find the form of 2014 which he had at Catalans in a position he naturally prefers.

A win win scenario for us IMO

Re: Sam Tomkins : Tue Oct 18, 2016 9:58 am  

Looks like he's likely to go to Toulon.

But... he might have unfinished business with RL. I'd look at him, class player with pedigree. Let bygones by bygones if he can aid the team and add to us winning silverware. He was a very young man when he left, money turns heads, and we all make mistakes (some could argue Wigan make a few mistakes with Ashton themselves).