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The Standard of modern game! : Fri Sep 23, 2016 1:42 pm  
After reading Bilko's decision to leave the game for good and this forum and his radio commentaries i agree. The salary cap has now totally changed the game. Every top 8 team is capable of beating eachover and the game is now like the flick of a coin who wins games. The current players in Wigans team would not have got into the old alliance team :roll: . We have referees who dont know if tries are scored when games are on television and are always unsure. The game has penalties given left right and centre for no reason. Salford came 7th this season and now have the chance to be relegated even with a millionare owner! promising to give them glory! cup final with record numbers of empty seats! and the fact that i along with 4 or 5 thousand over Wigan fans have given up watching the team regulary e.g. 15,000-16,000 average down to about 11,000. And now even our very own Bilko is jumping ship! THE SALARY CAP HAS RUINED SL! :READING:
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Re: The Standard of modern game! : Fri Sep 23, 2016 2:27 pm  
It's sad isn't it? The salary cap was brought in to end Wigan's dominance of the game and it was successful in doing so. However it brought Wigan and the other top teams down to the standard of the less successful clubs rather than brining the standard of the less successful clubs up to the higher standard.
Our game is a far cry from the scintillating, fast, ferocious sport it once was and I fear there is no way back.
Some changes are for the better with better protection for player safety but it has reduced the attraction of our great game.
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Re: The Standard of modern game! : Fri Sep 23, 2016 2:41 pm  
One of my biggest gripes is how long a televised match now takes. Leeds and Leigh were still playing at five past ten last night!
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Re: The Standard of modern game! : Fri Sep 23, 2016 2:48 pm  
Only somewhat agree with all this. Yes the standard has dropped, but I'd point to over-regulation and seriously rubbish refs killing flow rather than blaming it all on the SC. Our domination (and Bradford's and Fax and Fev's at periods over the last 100 years) are only good for the fair-weather fans and do nothing to actually grow the game. If, as people are saying, that most clubs are now on a level (albeit one that could be argued is lower than it should be) then shirley it's for the controllers of the game to ensure everyone's standards are raised together, not one club being allowed to pull so far ahead as to disenfranchise the rest?
But as it's Red Hall that would be charged with that, I'm not holding my breath.
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Re: The Standard of modern game! : Fri Sep 23, 2016 2:53 pm  
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One of my biggest gripes is how long a televised match now takes. Leeds and Leigh were still playing at five past ten last night!


Agree, it's ridiculous. Though it's not just televised games so not just SKY to blame. The whole game is so slow at the minute. Every scrum takes about 3 minutes to pack down with players taking in fluids every single time, players constantly going down 5m from their line before goal line drop outs, video refs taking ages on decisions, the likes of Gale and Sneyd taking hours to convert a try, the over sanitisation of the obstruction rule, players constantly milking penalties and chatting to refs. All leads to a very dull affair at the minute.
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Re: The Standard of modern game! : Fri Sep 23, 2016 3:18 pm  
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Agree, it's ridiculous. Though it's not just televised games so not just SKY to blame. The whole game is so slow at the minute. Every scrum takes about 3 minutes to pack down with players taking in fluids every single time, players constantly going down 5m from their line before goal line drop outs, video refs taking ages on decisions, the likes of Gale and Sneyd taking hours to convert a try, the over sanitisation of the obstruction rule, players constantly milking penalties and chatting to refs. All leads to a very dull affair at the minute.

Agreed. The RFL definitely need to look at bringing the NRL's shot-clock in. Would make a huge improvement in most of those areas.
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Re: The Standard of modern game! : Fri Sep 23, 2016 4:04 pm  
I think there are several strings to this clear decline that we are seeing and ine that it is impossible to deny is happening.

Firstly the cap, clearly designed to make the game more competitive at the cost of bringing all clubs in line with the lowest common denominator.

The lack of top quality overseas stars coming to SL. Those days are at the moment long gone although the marquee rule may tempt some back.

The format, of the season, basically it has aged very quickly and needs freshening up ensuring every game really does count.

The lack of quality coaches in the game with so few ideas. With most of the teams it is as if they are playing the same way they did 5 years ago. No overseas coach has really come in and shaken things up in the same way Madge did and Brown did before him.

Player development. We have major issues bridging the gap from Junior to first team rugby, the Academy comp is also often a mismatch in standard.

A lack of quality administrators.

It is a real worry. It needs someone to come in and really take the code by the scruff of the neck and kick some life back into the sport, Mo Lindsey had his critics but oh how we could do with someone like him coming into the game and dragging it forward rather than have the likes of Nigel Wood one of the most inept administrators in the sport before he took over leading our sport.
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Re: The Standard of modern game! : Fri Sep 23, 2016 4:26 pm  
The cap plays a huge part tbh. I always said from the beginning that it was a way of dragging standards down rather then up and we're now left with a more even but pretty poor standard of league.

The argument for the cap was that it would stop clubs spending above their means but as many if not more clubs have had financial troubles since its introduction.

If people like Koukash and Simon Moran could spend what they wanted them players like Sam Burgess and James Graham may well have been playing back in superleague and you can add some top overseas talent to that list as well. That would increase the standard of competition as well as putting bums on seats which would in turn help clubs increase their revenue.
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Re: The Standard of modern game! : Fri Sep 23, 2016 4:33 pm  
The play offs and Grand Final have ruined Rugby League.
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Re: The Standard of modern game! : Fri Sep 23, 2016 4:45 pm  
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The play offs and Grand Final have ruined Rugby League.


My Grandad would agree. After tonight he wont watch any more. He says whoever finishes top are champions and doesn't care about the Sky Sports Trophy.
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