Re: Ryan Hampshire. : Sat Jun 18, 2016 9:22 am  

[Gareth] wrote:

Maybe he just isnt good enough for SL

He probably isn't yet. Whether he will be or not remains to be seen. What he does need is regular rugby. I said at the start of this season when the Cas loan was announced that a year in the championship would have been better and I've not changed my mind.

Re: Ryan Hampshire. : Sat Jun 18, 2016 11:42 am  

Are Cas able to re-loan him out? He should be playing somewhere at least, be it in the Championship at London or something.

Re: Ryan Hampshire. : Sun Jun 19, 2016 7:55 am  

The way some people were posting about Hampshire was frankly insane,he has talent but he'd reached almost mythical status before he'd barely played a game how on earth can anyone put up with that pressure?

I think the seaason long loan has been a complete waste oftime at Cas,whoever advised him got it utterly wrong he should have dropped down a division or even yet stayed at Wigan though i suspect he's had his chips there as long as Wane is in charge.

Clearly Powell has seen at first hand that perhaps he isnt the player he thought he was given his very limited run at Cas he has got some hard thinking to do in the coming months.

Re: Ryan Hampshire. : Sun Jun 19, 2016 12:00 pm  

There was even a post on here saying we shouldn't re sign Sam if it adversely affected Hampshire. As you say, insane.

Re: Ryan Hampshire. : Sun Jun 19, 2016 1:59 pm  

No Hampshire again for Cas today. Despite having Gale and Roberts out, we have a prop (Millington) and a hooker (McShane) playing in the halves.

Re: Ryan Hampshire. : Sun Jun 19, 2016 2:22 pm  

Hampshire has the one thing you can't coach and that is pace.
Today's game is over coached by virtually every team in the competition. Hampshire probably doesn't fit into today's predetermined moves and coaches don't think they can afford to have a "luxury" player.
These things go in cycles. When crowds continue to drop and interest continues to wither on the vine the game will revert back to a more open game as the "technical" coaches are ditched by clubs who need the lost income and support more than D, middles ( I still don't know what a middle is or is supposed to do) and full quotas of jacks of all trades but masters of non.
Hampshire seems to lack confidence and maybe he needs somewhere that will let him rule the roost rather than live of the scraps that Gale allows him Cas.
I'm an unashamed fan of Hampshire based on some his outstanding performances for the u19's and it would be sad if the game lost out on a potential precocious talent whilst talentless players abound in the competition because they tip their cap to whatever coaches tell them to do.
The game is riddled with half backs with no discernible talent but play to a plan derived on a whiteboard by coaches who over complicate issues and don't trust any of the players to play it as they see it.
Maybe Hampshire flattered to deceive but no one can convince me otherwise that today's game is wretched to watch and generally is devoid of any free thought for players.

Re: Ryan Hampshire. : Sun Jun 19, 2016 2:25 pm  

nottinghamtiger wrote:

No Hampshire again for Cas today. Despite having Gale and Roberts out, we have a prop (Millington) and a hooker (McShane) playing in the halves.

Out of interest what do you think of that as a Cas fan?

Re: Ryan Hampshire. : Sun Jun 19, 2016 2:36 pm  

Itchy Arsenal wrote:

Out of interest what do you think of that as a Cas fan?

It seems odd we have paid his wages all year but still don't use him, either at full-back when Dorn is out or in the halves when both Roberts and Gale are out.
As much as I don't think Hampshire played well in the halves earlier in the season, we lose the ability to interchange Milner and McShane at hooker, meaning neither have as much impact. We also lose our best ball-playing forward in Millington who makes a good first of half back role but poses much more of a threat hitting the line as a forward.
Interesting to note that Tom Holmes is on our bench today, so even a kid who has been playing on duel-reg with Oxford seems to be above Hampshire in the pecking order.
It seems odd to me, but Powell sees Hampshire in training every day and clearly isn't impressed.

Re: Ryan Hampshire. : Sun Jun 19, 2016 2:43 pm  

Itchy Arsenal wrote:

Hampshire has the one thing you can't coach and that is pace.
Today's game is over coached by virtually every team in the competition. Hampshire probably doesn't fit into today's predetermined moves and coaches don't think they can afford to have a "luxury" player.
These things go in cycles. When crowds continue to drop and interest continues to wither on the vine the game will revert back to a more open game as the "technical" coaches are ditched by clubs who need the lost income and support more than D, middles ( I still don't know what a middle is or is supposed to do) and full quotas of jacks of all trades but masters of non.
Hampshire seems to lack confidence and maybe he needs somewhere that will let him rule the roost rather than live of the scraps that Gale allows him Cas.
I'm an unashamed fan of Hampshire based on some his outstanding performances for the u19's and it would be sad if the game lost out on a potential precocious talent whilst talentless players abound in the competition because they tip their cap to whatever coaches tell them to do.
The game is riddled with half backs with no discernible talent but play to a plan derived on a whiteboard by coaches who over complicate issues and don't trust any of the players to play it as they see it.
Maybe Hampshire flattered to deceive but no one can convince me otherwise that today's game is wretched to watch and generally is devoid of any free thought for players.

Hampshire's pace has not been noticeable so far, even when he played full-back and had the opportunity to bring the ball away on kick-returns.
Gale certainly did not restrict Hampshire. We play with split halves so Hampshire had the job of controlling the right of our attack.
However, I agree with your views of half backs, apart from Sandow perhaps!

Re: Ryan Hampshire. : Sun Jun 19, 2016 3:37 pm  

Maybe Cas are resting him for the big game next week?