Re: Squad for Hull : Thu Jul 23, 2015 10:16 pm  

Wigan Peer wrote:

Madge has gone, you need to get over it..

I'm over it, what I am not over however is such a significant drop in performance.

Re: Squad for Hull : Thu Jul 23, 2015 10:22 pm  

jonh wrote:

I think we have been garbage for a good few weeks, tonight we improved without doubt but at best we we average. A Madge team would have put 60 or 70 on that shower.

I think we'd have put 60 on them had we eased off on the knock-ons and forward passes that gifted them so much undeserved possession and territory. A better all-round show from Wigan, but individually we are still putting in some inept performances. Really amateurish stuff, a lot of those errors.

Re: Squad for Hull : Fri Jul 24, 2015 5:05 am  

Yes if we play like that again we will definitely beat....Hull

Re: Squad for Hull : Fri Jul 24, 2015 6:40 am  

Play poorly and it's all Wane's fault. Play well and it's only because the opposition were poor. Some people need to let the vendetta against the coach go. It's embarrassing. As for a Madge team scoring 60 or 70, he had a squad with a lot more talent than this one. I am not sure how much more he could get from them. I remember the end to the 2011 season. Getting hammered by Saints twice and going out without a whimper.

Re: Squad for Hull : Fri Jul 24, 2015 6:56 am  

I thought we were much better too. Improved effort from the pack, Williams and Smith went OK (Smith even running the ball at least once, to good effect!), and our outside backs again looked an attacking threat. Our two "centres who aren't centres" both had excellent games, I thought.

Downside was still way too many penalties conceded. Like that stupid one in the first half for pushing an opponent over the sideline after the tackle was complete. Just no need to do that. And even though he had an improved showing last night, it seems to me that Powell has at least one penalty in him every time he steps onto the pitch.

Re: Squad for Hull : Fri Jul 24, 2015 8:03 am  

Think you are being a bit harsh, we weren't great but a lot of that was down to your intensity in attack and defence. Very clinical in attack and aggressive in defence, you played the ball so much quicker than us.

Thought your forwards bullied ours (which hasn't happened much this year) and you had too much speed and skill out wide.

Gelling was great and your halfs intelligent as they played in wide early to identify our weakness out wide.

I seem some if your away performances thus year and you have been really poor, unfortunately last night wasn't one if them.

Re: Squad for Hull : Fri Jul 24, 2015 11:27 am  

Mash Butty wrote:

Yes if we play like that again we will definitely beat....Hull

I think that's a fair assessment.

There was an improvement over previous weeks, some individuals stepped up (Joel, Lockers). But people who are happy with the result should remember Hull split us a few times and the scoreline might have looked different if not for a couple of forward passes.

Re: Squad for Hull : Fri Jul 24, 2015 12:32 pm  

Dave K. wrote:

Think you are being a bit harsh, we weren't great but a lot of that was down to your intensity in attack and defence. Very clinical in attack and aggressive in defence, you played the ball so much quicker than us.

Thought your forwards bullied ours (which hasn't happened much this year) and you had too much speed and skill out wide.

Gelling was great and your halfs intelligent as they played in wide early to identify our weakness out wide.

I seem some if your away performances thus year and you have been really poor, unfortunately last night wasn't one if them.

That seems a fair assessment, it definitely was one of our better away performances this year.

Just out of interest, why wasn't Shaul playing at fullback for you last night? I thought he was pretty impressive whenever I saw him last year.

Re: Squad for Hull : Fri Jul 24, 2015 12:34 pm  

Whilst it wasn't a complete perfect performance, I was very, very happy on the way home from Hull last night. Without doubt, it's a step in the right direction regarding our performances on the road in 2015. Hull have made the second most metres in the league this year and I think our pack finally stood up away from home and gave us the intensity in defence we've been missing. Attacking wise I thought we were more clinical, and some decent moves in there as well, such as Bowen's first. And I still cannot believe the amount of criticism George Williams receives from some. He's 20 years old, playing in a pivotal position in a team chasing trophies, I think he doesn't deserve half the stuff he gets thrown at him. Think him and Smith are forming a solid partnership now.

Yes, I know it's only one game, and I'm not getting carried away as I know how we've been away from home all year, but is it just me that wouldn't be surprised to suddenly see us turn it on away from home in the Super 8's? Still think we're a year or two short from a great team.

Re: Squad for Hull : Fri Jul 24, 2015 12:52 pm  

Agreed. Williams is fine, and Smith has looked a lot more like his old self in the last couple of matches.

Discipline, though; there's plenty of room for improvement there. I kept thinking how a better side than Hull would punish us for all those penalties we conceded, many of them quite needlessly.