Mossop : Sun Jun 21, 2015 8:04 pm  

Probably been mentioned on other threads but he has been absolutely appalling for the vast majority of the year.

Looks very unfit, rarely takes the ball up (and gets driven back when he does) and defends like he doesn't care.

What happened to the player who was eating up the metres back in 2010 and looked the best forward prospect in the competition?

None of our props have really impressed this year (maybe Clubb) but this guy has been the worst of the lot for me. Looks a shocking signing so far.

Re: Mossop : Sun Jun 21, 2015 8:26 pm  

MadDogg wrote: Probably been mentioned on other threads but he has been absolutely appalling for the vast majority of the year. Looks very unfit, rarely takes the ball up (and gets driven back when he does) and defends like he doesn't care. What happened to the player who was eating up the metres back in 2010 and looked the best forward prospect in the competition? None of our props have really impressed this year (maybe Clubb) but this guy has been the worst of the lot for me. Looks a shocking signing so far. I don't see the problem. All the experts from other clubs said he was injury prone and would only play about 10 games. His stats are o.k. Wigan don't rely on our props making big metres, but they expect them to be good defensively. Mossop and our props do that. http://www.superleague.co.uk/matchday/player/2497

MadDogg wrote: Probably been mentioned on other threads but he has been absolutely appalling for the vast majority of the year. Looks very unfit, rarely takes the ball up (and gets driven back when he does) and defends like he doesn't care. What happened to the player who was eating up the metres back in 2010 and looked the best forward prospect in the competition? None of our props have really impressed this year (maybe Clubb) but this guy has been the worst of the lot for me. Looks a shocking signing so far. I don't see the problem. All the experts from other clubs said he was injury prone and would only play about 10 games. His stats are o.k. Wigan don't rely on our props making big metres, but they expect them to be good defensively. Mossop and our props do that. http://www.superleague.co.uk/matchday/player/2497

Re: Mossop : Sun Jun 21, 2015 8:29 pm  

What's the actual point in signing props if they aren't gonna take the ball up?

We may as well play with 2 more second rowers, surely?

Re: Mossop : Sun Jun 21, 2015 8:40 pm  

Wigg'n wrote:

What's the actual point in signing props if they aren't gonna take the ball up?

We may as well play with 2 more second rowers, surely?

Averaging 80 metres per match

He's also averaging over 20 tackles a game or do you want to discount that fact?

Re: Mossop : Sun Jun 21, 2015 8:43 pm  

What else do you expect from an NRL failure

Re: Mossop : Sun Jun 21, 2015 8:44 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote: I don't see the problem. All the experts from other clubs said he was injury prone and would only play about 10 games. His stats are o.k. Wigan don't rely on our props making big metres, but they expect them to be good defensively. Mossop and our props do that. http://www.superleague.co.uk/matchday/player/2497 Rouges I beg to differ on this emphasise on Wigan using the backs to clear the line, if as has been seen this season this reliance on the backs to clear the line as meant that a lot of times we have struggled to get to our own forty and if a bad kick comes in on the 5th it means the opposition team is on the front foot straight away. This means that the opposition often seem to have 2/3 tackles left when they get to the Wigan 25, your props are not going to help much when the other team have the chance of swinging it wide for a couple of tackles. Sarge this last few weeks as almost seemed to be taking the ball up a couple of times in each set when in our own half, the wingers have also done a shift as well, and in my opinion Joel less so ( Sarge does twice the work that Joel does trying to clear the line)

Rogues Gallery wrote: I don't see the problem. All the experts from other clubs said he was injury prone and would only play about 10 games. His stats are o.k. Wigan don't rely on our props making big metres, but they expect them to be good defensively. Mossop and our props do that. http://www.superleague.co.uk/matchday/player/2497 Rouges I beg to differ on this emphasise on Wigan using the backs to clear the line, if as has been seen this season this reliance on the backs to clear the line as meant that a lot of times we have struggled to get to our own forty and if a bad kick comes in on the 5th it means the opposition team is on the front foot straight away. This means that the opposition often seem to have 2/3 tackles left when they get to the Wigan 25, your props are not going to help much when the other team have the chance of swinging it wide for a couple of tackles. Sarge this last few weeks as almost seemed to be taking the ball up a couple of times in each set when in our own half, the wingers have also done a shift as well, and in my opinion Joel less so ( Sarge does twice the work that Joel does trying to clear the line)

Re: Mossop : Sun Jun 21, 2015 8:47 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

Averaging 80 metres per match

He's also averaging over 20 tackles a game or do you want to discount that fact?

Bateman averaging 90 metres and 33 tackles.
Farrell averaging and 113 metres 30 tackles.

Patrick has made 60 more tackles than Mossop and probably played the same minutes so don't big up his defence like it's winning us matches.

So I'll ask again. Why don't we just play an extra 2 second rowers?

Re: Mossop : Sun Jun 21, 2015 8:48 pm  

Wigg'n wrote:

Bateman averaging 90 metres and 33 tackles.
Farrell averaging and 113 metres 30 tackles.

So I'll ask again. Why don't we just play an extra 2 second rowers?

Which ones would you pick?

Re: Mossop : Sun Jun 21, 2015 8:49 pm  

Mossop started very brightly but recently he's gone well off the boil. He's always had the same issue IMO in that he drifts through many games and doesn't take hold of them and try to be a leader. He simply must start to take that role on IMO. He's been around the first team for 5 years or so and done a season in the NRL. He needs to stick his hand up and start setting an example by busting a gut week in week out.

Overall I'd sum his season up as typical Lee Mossop.

Re: Mossop : Sun Jun 21, 2015 8:51 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

Which ones would you pick?

Stevie Ward and Grant Millington.