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Re: Bowen! : Wed Apr 01, 2015 6:42 pm  
I think the comparison with Brett Hodgson is telling. Hodgson was arguably somewhat further past his sell-by date when he left Australia than Bowen. I was delighted when we signed MB, as I foresaw another Hodgson, bringing the younger lads through, etc. But although he'd lost pace of course, Hodgson absolutely ran through walls for both the Giants and Wire (as he had throughout his career, and his injury record attests to it). And crucially, he was a very smart footballer who could spot and angle, pick a pass, etc. Bowen has shown no sign of being anything like such a good signing.
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Re: Bowen! : Wed Apr 01, 2015 8:44 pm  
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I think the comparison with Brett Hodgson is telling. Hodgson was arguably somewhat further past his sell-by date when he left Australia than Bowen. I was delighted when we signed MB, as I foresaw another Hodgson, bringing the younger lads through, etc. But although he'd lost pace of course, Hodgson absolutely ran through walls for both the Giants and Wire (as he had throughout his career, and his injury record attests to it). And crucially, he was a very smart footballer who could spot and angle, pick a pass, etc. Bowen has shown no sign of being anything like such a good signing.


Hodgson was a clever player like you say and didn't rely on pace to the degree Bowen has.

We need far more creativity from the back in our system then what Bowen has offered. The amount of times he's had an overlap on and thrown a forward pass or a ball behind a man this season has been poor.

Aside from some big games last year I thought he was superb at times but he looks flat this year.
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Re: Bowen! : Thu Apr 02, 2015 6:44 am  
Bowen definitely relied more on pure speed than Hodgson. He also benefitted from being in a side with Thurston, which meant his role was generally one of supporting planned moves, rather than making them himself.

I really hope he doesn't end up tainting his reputation by playing on too long. He would have been great for Wigan and SL in the form of a few years ago, and it will be a shame if you never really got to see the real Matt Bowen.
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Re: Bowen! : Sun Apr 12, 2015 4:34 pm  
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Bowen definitely relied more on pure speed than Hodgson. He also benefitted from being in a side with Thurston, which meant his role was generally one of supporting planned moves, rather than making them himself.

I really hope he doesn't end up tainting his reputation by playing on too long. He would have been great for Wigan and SL in the form of a few years ago, and it will be a shame if you never really got to see the real Matt Bowen.


Its sad in a way that many people have not seen Bowen in his prime, to say that he is a shadow of his former self is probably an understatement.

In his prime he was an excitement machine and although we have seen glimpses of his magic I do think injuries and age have caught up with him, the speed is just not there anymore.

He deserves to go out on a high after what he has given the game but its difficult to see that at the moment.
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Re: Bowen! : Sun Apr 12, 2015 5:26 pm  
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Its sad in a way that many people have not seen Bowen in his prime, to say that he is a shadow of his former self is probably an understatement.

In his prime he was an excitement machine and although we have seen glimpses of his magic I do think injuries and age have caught up with him, the speed is just not there anymore.

He deserves to go out on a high after what he has given the game but its difficult to see that at the moment.

he's done a couple of length-of-the-field runs this year which have left others standing, but he's then left blowing so hard he's a liability for the next 10 minutes. It is a shame, I don't think he came here for a pension, but I suspect he's underestimated the effort needed in SL. Needs to admit he's not up to muster & find family reasons to go back down under.
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Re: Bowen! : Sun Apr 12, 2015 5:29 pm  
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he's done a couple of length-of-the-field runs this year which have left others standing, but he's then left blowing so hard he's a liability for the next 10 minutes. It is a shame, I don't think he came here for a pension, but I suspect he's underestimated the effort needed in SL. Needs to admit he's not up to muster & find family reasons to go back down under.


He's carrying too much weight and that probably fits with him maybe thinking the league would be a bit easier then it's turned out.

I still think he may have a role to play though and he'd be wise using the time to get as sharp as possible.
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Re: Bowen! : Sun Apr 12, 2015 6:49 pm  
I really can't see him getting back in now unless Hampshire picks up an injury. Rocky's making the 1 shirt his own and we have so many options in the halves and across the backs there's really no point playing him. It's a shame in a way and I do think he would improve as the grounds firm up but we look much more dangerous with Hampshire's pace out the back.
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Re: Bowen! : Sun Apr 12, 2015 7:56 pm  
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I really can't see him getting back in now unless Hampshire picks up an injury. Rocky's making the 1 shirt his own and we have so many options in the halves and across the backs there's really no point playing him. It's a shame in a way and I do think he would improve as the grounds firm up but we look much more dangerous with Hampshire's pace out the back.



Would Bowen have scored off the breakaway from Budgie and pass to Hampshire to score ??
That's how they used to play in under 19s Hampshire backing Budgie up.
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