Re: Fans forum - Burgess : Fri Jan 23, 2015 7:04 pm  

moto748 wrote:

They seemed keen to trial RT-S there last season. And NRL full-backs are hardly all massive; Minichiello, Barba, Sam Tomkins, even.

Be interesting to see, anyway. If nothing else, it adds interest to the NRL for English fans, seeing our players perform down there.

Fair point.

RT-S is imo a much better winger than JB.

I see JB more as a full back in the GI mould.

Re: Fans forum - Burgess : Fri Jan 23, 2015 7:38 pm  

I would like to wish Burgess all the best of luck with his move to the NRL next year and for moving out there so soon
IMO he would have had a great career at Wigan judging by his early promise shown thus far, but he has decided to move out of his comfort zone and move to the other side of the world to put his name into the hat for a starting spot at the Roosters which is not a certainty

As an outsider looking in i would question why so many Wigan players are quite happy to jump ship at any given opportunity and try their luck in either the NRL or Rugby Union

Re: Fans forum - Burgess : Fri Jan 23, 2015 7:54 pm  

RT-S is a better winger than just about anyone, to be fair.

Northern Boys wrote:

I would like to wish Burgess all the best of luck with his move to the NRL next year and for moving out there so soon
IMO he would have had a great career at Wigan judging by his early promise shown thus far, but he has decided to move out of his comfort zone and move to the other side of the world to put his name into the hat for a starting spot at the Roosters which is not a certainty

As an outsider looking in i would question why so many Wigan players are quite happy to jump ship at any given opportunity and try their luck in either the NRL or Rugby Union

Maybe players from other clubs are less wanted by the NRL and RU?

Re: Fans forum - Burgess : Fri Jan 23, 2015 8:03 pm  

Northern Boys wrote:

As an outsider looking in i would question why so many Wigan players are quite happy to jump ship at any given opportunity and try their luck in either the NRL or Rugby Union

That is surely a question that has to be asked at Wigan - other big clubs have lost one or two, at Wigan it seems to be everyone jumping at the first opportunity.

Re: Fans forum - Burgess : Fri Jan 23, 2015 8:13 pm  

One thing I don't understand (and I'm not sure if it's been brought up)... why wasn't Burgess offered a long deal in the middle of last year when we already knew Richards was leaving? If we'd offered him £30k on a 3 year contract we could've been receiving a large transfer fee right now. The fact that he only had about 6 months left on his contract when he scored 4 tries against NZ Warriors is crazy.

Re: Fans forum - Burgess : Fri Jan 23, 2015 8:18 pm  

Wigg'n wrote:

One thing I don't understand (and I'm not sure if it's been brought up)... why wasn't Burgess offered a long deal in the middle of last year when we already knew Richards was leaving? If we'd offered him £30k on a 3 year contract we could've been receiving a large transfer fee right now. The fact that he only had about 6 months left on his contract when he scored 4 tries against NZ Warriors is crazy.

What?? Richards left 2013 and Joe had 2 years left on his contract when we played NZ Warriors, 2014 and 2015.

Re: Fans forum - Burgess : Fri Jan 23, 2015 8:24 pm  

Wigg'n wrote:

One thing I don't understand (and I'm not sure if it's been brought up)... why wasn't Burgess offered a long deal in the middle of last year when we already knew Richards was leaving? If we'd offered him £30k on a 3 year contract we could've been receiving a large transfer fee right now. The fact that he only had about 6 months left on his contract when he scored 4 tries against NZ Warriors is crazy.

Perhaps offering a take-it of leave-it £30k per year contract to one of the best young talents in the league is the reason that he has signed for somebody else.

If the salary cap is £1.9m for 25 players then why the hell would one of your first choice 13 be expected to accept a salary at less than half (assuming my quick calculation is correct) of the average wage of the 25 man squad?

I bet Williams' and Powell's new contracts are there or there-abouts what Burgess was asking for to stay at Wigan.

Re: Fans forum - Burgess : Fri Jan 23, 2015 9:17 pm  

JCWWRL wrote:

What?? Richards left 2013 and Joe had 2 years left on his contract when we played NZ Warriors, 2014 and 2015.

You make valid points. I still think it's 2014 for some reason.

My point still remains though. If Sutton is worth a 4 year deal now then Joe was worth the same 18 months ago.

Re: Fans forum - Burgess : Fri Jan 23, 2015 9:18 pm  

Paul Youane wrote:

Perhaps offering a take-it of leave-it £30k per year contract to one of the best young talents in the league is the reason that he has signed for somebody else.

If the salary cap is £1.9m for 25 players then why the hell would one of your first choice 13 be expected to accept a salary at less than half (assuming my quick calculation is correct) of the average wage of the 25 man squad?

I bet Williams' and Powell's new contracts are there or there-abouts what Burgess was asking for to stay at Wigan.

Yeah I meant offer him £30k in 2013 when he'd only like 4 or 5 games and was up against Manfredi/Gelling for Richards' wing spot.

Re: Fans forum - Burgess : Fri Jan 23, 2015 9:42 pm  

No one to blame but Wigan RL Management.

They could as other clubs did see the potential in the young lad, but failed to offer a decent contract.

Penny pinching is OK if it doesn't involve losing your best youngsters way too soon.