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Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Mon Apr 20, 2015 7:04 pm  
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Joel?


Sorry I rushed my OP.

Joel and Lockers are our two biggest back row players and they are both guaranteed starters when fit. After that it's Fax, Bateman and C Faz beind them making up the other spots.

If Lockers retires then naturally one of those steps forward into a starting role which, imo, makes us a little undersized.

I know TT played 13 for Paramatta, could he be moulded back into a 2nd row spot? Whilst he's not got height he's got a decent frame.
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Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Mon Apr 20, 2015 7:24 pm  
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Sorry I rushed my OP.

Joel and Lockers are our two biggest back row players and they are both guaranteed starters when fit. After that it's Fax, Bateman and C Faz beind them making up the other spots.

If Lockers retires then naturally one of those steps forward into a starting role which, imo, makes us a little undersized.

I know TT played 13 for Paramatta, could he be moulded back into a 2nd row spot? Whilst he's not got height he's got a decent frame.


Agree to a certain extent. Though at 21, Bateman has still got plenty of opportunity to put size on. Look at Lockers when he was in his early 20's compared to now. Tbh I think the "Farrell and Bateman are undersized" argument is a bit redundant anyway. A L Farrell, J Tomkins and Bateman starting backrow looks excellent to me and will keep us in good stead for years to come. Then it's up to the coaching staff to see whether the likes of C Farrell, Lever, Lloyd are good enough to provide cover or if we need to recruit.
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Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Tue Apr 21, 2015 11:14 am  
Sorry if it's already been mentioned but according to Koucash on twitter the marquee player rule will only apply to home grown players.
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Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Tue Apr 21, 2015 12:09 pm  
Which in turn begs the question, how exactly is 'home-grown' defined?
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Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Tue Apr 21, 2015 12:21 pm  
So it's basically a rule to get back Brits from the NRL and to maybe stop them going in the first place.

Clubs links to Burgess and Widdop make sense if that's the case.
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Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Tue Apr 21, 2015 12:38 pm  
does the "home grown" mean club trained or federation trained though....???? either way it is 3 seasons before becoming ineligible for a Under 21 squad
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Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Tue Apr 21, 2015 1:08 pm  
The phrase "Home Grown" is long gone. It is now "Club Trained".

I think to be Club Trained a player has to be at a club 3 years by the time he reaches 21.
It doesn't mean a player has come through a club's scholarship or academy system.
I'm pretty sure Jon Wilkin is club trained at Saints due to him going there when 17.
Likewise Richie Myler is club trained at Salford, not Widnes.

Sam would therefore qualify as club trained.
Sam Burgess could only be signed by Bradford on that basis.
I do get the feeling that the good Dr might mean Federation trained. Meaning any British player who's come through a British club's system could qualify as Fed trained.
Messrs Burgess could sign for any SL club on that ruling.
Best wait and see on this one.
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Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Tue Apr 21, 2015 2:16 pm  
Why don't they just open it up to anyone?

Would love to see a few of the games top players come over here for a 12 month stint like Hoffman did.

A rule like this really opens up endless possibilities for attracting over big name players.
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Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Tue Apr 21, 2015 2:25 pm  
Apparently, the Dr also said the rule as it stands would only benefit clubs like Leeds, Saints, Wigan, so I guess it means club trained players.
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