Re: Wire or Leeds? : Mon Oct 08, 2012 9:50 am  

Tingley Rhino wrote:

Take off your cherry and white blinkers and see the big picture ! The champions are the team that wins the grand final end of. If the champions were the team that finishes top, then Warrington would have won the title because they were the most consistant team over the year and rested and rotated their older players to keep them fresh for the play offs. They also put out a reserve team prior to wembley and lost the two points that would have given them the title. The only reason you would chose to finish higher up the table is to make your play off games easier and to obtain a second chance from finishing in the top two. Games through the season are not meaning less, is just that Leeds have won back to back Grand finals from 5th so everyones jumping on the band wagon saying weekley games are.

Please take some time to ackowledge what a champion team Leeds have been over the last eight years in a salary cap competition. They have never broken the cap like some and are currently spending under the cap. Adam Pearson and Ian Lennegan can spend all they want prizing contracted players from other clubs to try and buy sucess, but local lads with a never say die attitude is a winning combination no club, not even Wigan can buy under the current rugby league structure.

Wigan finished top...

Re: Wire or Leeds? : Mon Oct 08, 2012 10:00 am  

first can I congratulate Leeds on winning the vase, but in the weekend papers there was a quote that summed up the whole problem for me, the quote was from Brian Mcdermott who stated:

"we had to dig deep for 4 weeks"

so that really sums up the season, for 4 weeks Leeds dug deeper than anyon else, so I congratulate them on that.

Re: Wire or Leeds? : Mon Oct 08, 2012 10:03 am  

IF we are going to stick to a top 8, this would be a far better playoff system:

Week 1:
winner to final, loser to week two:
1v2

Lowest placed loser eliminated, winner to week two:
3v8
4v7
5v6

Week 2:
Highest placed loser vs lowest placed winner
Highest placed winner vs remaining team

Week 3:
Remaining two teams from week two

Week 4:
Final

Re: Wire or Leeds? : Mon Oct 08, 2012 10:06 am  

hula89 wrote:

Wigan finished top...

Well done! Enjoy the Tea Tray. However, you are missing his/her point. They are saying in a first past the post competition Tony Smith wouldn't rotate his teams as he did and would have comfortably finished 1st. I agree with him/her. But it isn't a FPTP competition as we all know and teams and coaches ,including Smudger, are aware of that.

Re: Wire or Leeds? : Mon Oct 08, 2012 10:10 am  

ryano wrote:

Well done! Enjoy the Tea Tray. However, you are missing his/her point. They are saying in a first past the post competition Tony Smith wouldn't rotate his teams as he did and would have comfortably finished 1st. I agree with him/her. But it isn't a FPTP competition as we all know and teams and coaches ,including Smudger, are aware of that.

But he said Warrington were the most consistent but they weren't as that would mean they had finished 1st not 2nd.

And he doesn't take into account that wane wouldn't have rested that many against widnes in that situation so we would probably have won that one.

Re: Wire or Leeds? : Mon Oct 08, 2012 10:16 am  

Blueprint for next season (team) pick which games we need to win in the weekly matches so we get to a playoff place (not too high up because the top four play each other, and though they get another chance if they lose they would also lose momentum) rest your best players for most of the games, and be careful during August, don’t want to many injuries and big name suspensions. By the way, why is it that Cats lose and go home for another chance, Saints win go home lose and they’re out?

Blueprint for next season (fan)don’t bother buying a season ticket (far too many meaningless games)pick and choose the games to go to derbies, CC rounds, big team games. We know it’s less cash for the club but at least we can get a chance in the silverware dept. Like the people who know say, what’s the point of being top if you don’t make the GF and miss on being champs and losing out on a shot at the top of Oz.... H G Wells is alive and well..
I hope this sh*t never happens!

Re: Wire or Leeds? : Mon Oct 08, 2012 10:42 am  

shambawangy wrote:

IF we are going to stick to a top 8, this would be a far better playoff system:

Week 1:
winner to final, loser to week two:
1v2

Lowest placed loser eliminated, winner to week two:
3v8
4v7
5v6

Week 2:
Highest placed loser vs lowest placed winner
Highest placed winner vs remaining team

Week 3:
Remaining two teams from week two

Week 4:
Final

it's not though, winner gets 3 weeks off then, hardly ideal

Re: Wire or Leeds? : Mon Oct 08, 2012 11:51 am  

Bill Sonny wrote:

it's not though, winner gets 3 weeks off then, hardly ideal

Do you have a better system? given that the RFL won't shift from a 'top 8'

it would be two weeks off btw

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Re: Wire or Leeds? : Mon Oct 08, 2012 12:08 pm  

shambawangy wrote:

Do you have a better system? given that the RFL won't shift from a 'top 8'

it would be two weeks off btw

It's 2 weekends off which is almost 3 weeks.

P.S. I don't have the answer. In fact my alternative gave the league winners the same length of time off.

Re: Wire or Leeds? : Mon Oct 08, 2012 12:44 pm  

shambawangy wrote:

Do you have a better system? given that the RFL won't shift from a 'top 8'

it would be two weeks off btw

If it has to be a 'top 8 system' then i'd have the following

1th vs 8th
4th vs 5th
-------------
2th vs 7th
3th vs 6th

Winners play each other in both sides of the draw, very simple imo

Works in the majority of every other sport in the world without complaints, you lose against the 8th placed team then you don't deserve another shot/to reach the next round! Knockout competition in all games

And yeah you win on the Friday of week one, it's 3 weeks later until you play the grand final, so I wouldn't be in favour of it.

My perfect thing would be a Top 3 playoff system, winner through to grand final, 2 vs 3 to qualify, not the biggest money spinner for Sky I guess but then the regular season becomes meaningful!