Re: For the Gelling knockers : Tue Jul 10, 2012 8:01 am  

I was and am hoping the Gelling will gel at Wigan, but week after week, there appear to be more and more flaws to his game. I dont think he has the trust of his centre, there are too many times when Carmont is going himself rather than passing out to Gelling.
OK, he is playing out of position, but that poistion is still on a Rugby pitch and to be a good centre, you must understand wingers. If and when Pat is back, I think Mr Gelling might get some starting roles out on loan, I can not see him being selected in in Carmonts place next season. In fact, I would have Thronley out on the wing against the Whinos.
How much time do we give him? We moaned about Richards, but he came here after winning a Grand Final; Gelling came because of disciplinary reasons.

Re: For the Gelling knockers : Tue Jul 10, 2012 8:12 am  

uglybug wrote:

I was and am hoping the Gelling will gel at Wigan, but week after week, there appear to be more and more flaws to his game. I dont think he has the trust of his centre, there are too many times when Carmont is going himself rather than passing out to Gelling.
OK, he is playing out of position, but that poistion is still on a Rugby pitch and to be a good centre, you must understand wingers. If and when Pat is back, I think Mr Gelling might get some starting roles out on loan, I can not see him being selected in in Carmonts place next season. In fact, I would have Thronley out on the wing against the Whinos.
How much time do we give him? We moaned about Richards, but he came here after winning a Grand Final; Gelling came because of disciplinary reasons.

He is still a kid for goodness sake!!! If he was from Wigan people would be creaming themselves.

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Re: For the Gelling knockers : Tue Jul 10, 2012 8:48 am  

uglybug wrote:

I was and am hoping the Gelling will gel at Wigan, but week after week, there appear to be more and more flaws to his game. I dont think he has the trust of his centre, there are too many times when Carmont is going himself rather than passing out to Gelling.
OK, he is playing out of position, but that poistion is still on a Rugby pitch and to be a good centre, you must understand wingers. If and when Pat is back, I think Mr Gelling might get some starting roles out on loan, I can not see him being selected in in Carmonts place next season. In fact, I would have Thronley out on the wing against the Whinos.
How much time do we give him? We moaned about Richards, but he came here after winning a Grand Final; Gelling came because of disciplinary reasons.

Thornley can't play in the cup. He was signed after the deadline.

Re: For the Gelling knockers : Tue Jul 10, 2012 8:55 am  

Wigan Peer wrote:

I think this is the point many are missing...He was not due to play, and has stood in for Pat and done a very effective DEFENSIVE job, allowing others to flourish.

Before you get on my case about how it would have been better to use someone else, look at the table!!

Yep I agree, as the other members of the team have been running in plenty of tries, Gelling bombing one or two chances hasn't actually cost us a game, my opinion may change if it does mind! I would much rather Pat's stand-in was defensively sound than someone like Ainscough who scored tries for fun but let as many in at his own end.

Wane gave Russell and King a chance on the wing and obviously wasn't convinced just yet. I think we'll see more of Thornley this season, though, he was very good on Sunday.

Re: For the Gelling knockers : Tue Jul 10, 2012 9:07 am  

WARRIORCRAIG wrote:

Yep I agree, as the other members of the team have been running in plenty of tries, Gelling bombing one or two chances hasn't actually cost us a game, my opinion may change if it does mind! I would much rather Pat's stand-in was defensively sound than someone like Ainscough who scored tries for fun but let as many in at his own end.

Wane gave Russell and King a chance on the wing and obviously wasn't convinced just yet. I think we'll see more of Thornley this season, though, he was very good on Sunday.

He looked terrific.. Sadly, i only saw highlights, so thats no way to judge.

Re: For the Gelling knockers : Tue Jul 10, 2012 12:29 pm  

Deano G wrote:

Many Wigan fans love nothing better than piling in with unjustified/over harsh criticism of certain players. We should perservere with Gelling, he's raw but raw in the sense that an uncut diamond is raw. It's up to Gelling and Wigan to shape this lad into the star he has the potential to become - he seems keen to play for the club so we should give him a chance.

Maybe, but shouldn't he be being 'polished' in the U20s, rather than in the first team, where he clearly isn't good enough?

I mean, he can't even catch! Carmont made a cracking break on Sunday and would normally have slung a long ball out to Richards for him to finish off. Carmont saw Gelling, and decided to stick hold instead, presumably because he couldn't trust him to catch it.

Supposing that had been in the last minutes of the Grand Final and we'd have been three points behind? Is that acceptable?

Re: For the Gelling knockers : Tue Jul 10, 2012 11:33 pm  

ROBINSON wrote:

Supposing that had been in the last minutes of the Grand Final and we'd have been three points behind? Is that acceptable?

Suppose he passes it to him and he catches it and scores? Just like he's managed on 7 other occasions this season.

Re: For the Gelling knockers : Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:55 am  

Conroy wrote:

Suppose he passes it to him and he catches it and scores? Just like he's managed on 7 other occasions this season.

Come on Conroy, you're smart enough and you're at every game. How does that figure compare with the amount of chances he's bombed, whether that's dropping balls or running in touch, for instance?

Re: For the Gelling knockers : Wed Jul 11, 2012 12:20 pm  

Conroy wrote:

Suppose he passes it to him and he catches it and scores? Just like he's managed on 7 other occasions this season.

Suppose he passes it to him and he catches it, then shoves it up his jumper, leans back, and howls at the moon ?

Re: For the Gelling knockers : Wed Jul 11, 2012 12:25 pm  

ROBINSON wrote:

Come on Conroy, you're smart enough and you're at every game. How does that figure compare with the amount of chances he's bombed, whether that's dropping balls or running in touch, for instance?

What about the 3 or 4 passes into touch by Carmont over the last 2/3 games that immediately everyone blamed Gelling for?
As for Carmont not passing and Blaming it on Gelling!

He made a poor defensive read for Wakeys opening try on Sunday but in the dozen other games he's played he's hardly put a foot wrong in defense.