Re: Gelling on the wing! : Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:39 am  

The trouble he has playing on the left wing is that he's consistently carrying the ball in his right hand (he did it in every one of his carries last night). This is preventing him from handing off covering defenders or giving defenders a big fend, knocking them off balance, before going round them a la paaaat. Its a relatively small thing, but it makes a HUGE difference for bigger wingers with slightly less pace and i'm amazed one of the coaches haven't picked up on this.

I will add this is fine if he's playing Centre as it allows him to offload to his winger, but as a winger it's really not helping him and could be why he's seen spilling so much ball under contact. As a professional you should really be able to carry the ball in either hand.

Re: Gelling on the wing! : Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:40 am  

Bilko wrote:

Not sure what he's offering myself. Give Ryan King a shot!

I think Ryan King's form has dipped this season.

Re: Gelling on the wing! : Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:50 am  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

I think Ryan King's form has dipped this season.

I agree. When I've seen him this year he's been pretty unspectacular. He'll finish tries off like a natural winger will but he's not doing much anywhere else on the pitch. At the moment he'd be comparable to Jamie Foster.

If anyone deserves a shot on the wing it's Joe Burgess. If Williams is being considered for the first team then Burgess must be too.

Re: Gelling on the wing! : Tue Jun 26, 2012 10:13 am  

I think he's doing a good enough job its just in a big game I'd rather see a winger who will make a run for the line when he has the room. George seems to get the ball out to him alot with room to run and he doesn't take it steps inside and is gang tackled and carried out or knocks on quite abit. Murphy seems to be in the match day squad quite alot recently so is he in Wane's plans more than the other young wingers I'd assume.

Re: Gelling on the wing! : Tue Jun 26, 2012 12:03 pm  

Gelling just has something about him that I like. He's like bamby on ice at points with his long legs and arms flaying about the place but he has something about him. I'm convinced he isn't a winger but he's got a lot of talent and with patience, good coaching and a chance in a position more suited to his game I believe we've found a real talent.

He's frustrating at times but I honestly believe if we're patient he'll repay everyone's faith.

Re: Gelling on the wing! : Tue Jun 26, 2012 12:14 pm  

People are not happy about him cutting on the inside, but put quite simply he hasnt got the pace to beat a man on the outside, nor a decent fend to stop him being put in touch.

Ideally he would be put at centre/SR but we have plenty of players in that position so for me he is doing a decent Job.

Re: Gelling on the wing! : Tue Jun 26, 2012 12:58 pm  

I like Gelling I think he's got a lot going for him, he just lacks that extra bit of pace to get around his opposite winger. He's a real handful in the tackle, has great feet and doesn't shirk the tough stuff.

I'd like to see him get a few games at centre to really judge him fairly.

Re: Gelling on the wing! : Tue Jun 26, 2012 1:11 pm  

This lad with our coaching system should get better and better he is a raw talent and playing out of position but he seems to fit in with our style of play at the moment. Defensively good takes it in hard in our own 20 giving our forwards some time. In my view he is our best option at present and can only keep improving.

Re: Gelling on the wing! : Tue Jun 26, 2012 1:12 pm  

shambawangy wrote:

People are not happy about him cutting on the inside, but put quite simply he hasnt got the pace to beat a man on the outside, nor a decent fend to stop him being put in touch.

Ideally he would be put at centre/SR but we have plenty of players in that position so for me he is doing a decent Job.

If he carried the ball in the correct hand he might well have a good fend.. He's easily big enough!

Re: Gelling on the wing! : Tue Jun 26, 2012 1:56 pm  

well at least he is in the best place on the field to watch a master in the craft of centre play, being outside George can only be good for him to pick up how a centre should play the game at this level. He might be Waney's option for next year for all we know in place of George.