Re: TL the Hooker : Sun Feb 21, 2010 12:07 am  

jonh wrote:

No disrespect to Tommy, but he will in my opinion have the craft of Monaghan.

Why would that disrespect Tommy?

Re: TL the Hooker : Sun Feb 21, 2010 12:24 am  

jonh wrote:

No disrespect to Tommy, but he will in my opinion have the craft of Monaghan.

Monaghan is twice the player Tommy is at hooker.

Re: TL the Hooker : Sun Feb 21, 2010 12:27 am  

cadoo wrote:

Monaghan is twice the player Tommy is at hooker.

Totally agree, simply comparing them as halves that have made the switch to hooker. TL is not the same style of player as Monaghan and he brings many different skills to the table, Monaghan has a style that suits the hooking role over TL, and i do not think TL can ever develop this in his game.

Re: TL the Hooker : Sun Feb 21, 2010 8:12 am  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

Last year I said that Roberts was the best winger at the club and Riddell was the best hooker.

I still believe it.

Any idea when Riddell is going to start proving this wild theory of yours?

Re: TL the Hooker : Sun Feb 21, 2010 12:08 pm  

jonh wrote:

Lets put this one to bed tonight once and for all, i know it has been mentioned on another thread, but not in a million years is he a 9.

He needs to play at 7.

The game changed when Deacon moved to 9. If Riddell is out for any length of time then Deacon has to play at 9 from now on for me.

Thank God for that, someone's finally seeing it!

Re: TL the Hooker : Sun Feb 21, 2010 12:11 pm  

Jack Kerley wrote:

:D

Any idea when Riddell is going to start proving this wild theory of yours?

I think 16-4 down at H/T with no territory kind of lends weight to the argument?

PS

I think we were 20-0 up against crusaders & 10-0 up against HKR when Piggy wnet off and IMO didn't look as effective until Piggy came back on.

It's not neccessarily what he himself does, it's how he gels the players around him and gets the forwards going forward and allows us to play the game in the right areas of the field.

Spotted it myself last night that we were far better when Deacons went to 9 & Tommy to 7.

Re: TL the Hooker : Sun Feb 21, 2010 12:13 pm  

Jukesays wrote:

I think 16-4 down at H/T with no territory kind of lends weight to the argument?

PS

I think we were 20-0 up against crusaders & 10-0 up against HKR when Piggy wnet off and IMO didn't look as effective until Piggy came back on.

It's not neccessarily what he himself does, it's how he gels the players around him and gets the forwards going forward and allows us to play the game in the right areas of the field.

Spotted it myself last night that we w
ere far better when Deacons went to 9 & Tommy to 7.

Correct Andy, we missed the pig last night. I txt a Saints friend of mine and he said the same. We missed him around the ruck, Tommy's a good impact hooker but he's not one for leading from the start, which is how he works for NZ aswell.

Re: TL the Hooker : Sun Feb 21, 2010 12:19 pm  

He's never a hooker. He should be kept at 7 without doubt.

Re: TL the Hooker : Sun Feb 21, 2010 1:06 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

Last year I said that Roberts was the best winger at the club and Riddell was the best hooker.

I still believe it.

Maybe so mate but it still doesn't mean that either was performing well enough to avoid criticism.

For me, Piggy was so-so last year, albeit an improvement on Higham, but that was all I expected from a journeyman such as he. His physical condition last season warrantied a degree of criticism IMO. The fact that he looks fitter now will be a bonus for us, so I'm quite happy with him.

As for Roberts, his sensational current form only goes to highlight how shocking he was last season in comparison. Unlike Piggy IMO this guy came as the real deal with around 100 NRL tries under his belt and should have been better last season. However, he is certainly frost hardened now and is playing a different game to last season.

I hope both can keep it up!!

Re: TL the Hooker : Sun Feb 21, 2010 1:47 pm  

jonh wrote:

Lets put this one to bed tonight once and for all, i know it has been mentioned on another thread, but not in a million years is he a 9.

He needs to play at 7.

The game changed when Deacon moved to 9. If Riddell is out for any length of time then Deacon has to play at 9 from now on for me.

exactly...........and i posted in the riddell injury thread, when speculation was being made about who plays where.......i posted

"leave the halves alone (tommy and sam, and stick deacon at 9".

not many agreed , but i think last night proved i was correct.
lets hope MM agrees with me next time riddells injured.