: Fri Feb 27, 2009 1:42 pm  

yes.......noble is at fault.

if the problems the players attitudes he needs to sort it.
if its just bad game plans he needs to change it
if its bad selection he needs to change that.

if its just bad management he needs to go

: Fri Feb 27, 2009 2:08 pm  

Mother Feka wrote:

when has that pack knocked the 'poop' out of any packs this year?

Warrington is one of only two teams that we can still laugh at so far this year!

rl : Fri Feb 27, 2009 2:53 pm  

No it's not all Noble's fault.
Noble has won the lot and repeatedly, when he had the players.
He won't win anything here until we have better players.
That's front row, halves, centres & FB. We are ok back row and wings that's all. We need 6-7 new players and better than the ones we've got.
Brian Noble can identify them but he can't do anything unless Ian Lenagan signs the cheques and brings them in.
The lack of effort and concentration plus poor spirit is down to him. However, if those problems are due to the players themselves knowing they aren't good enough then it's down to both Noble and Lenagan to sort and quickly.
Like all poor performances by companies be they sports or anything else, the responsibility lies with the owners & BOD!
Wigan RLFC is no exception.

: Fri Feb 27, 2009 3:46 pm  

When has our pack done anything this year?

: Fri Feb 27, 2009 5:40 pm  

if it's not down to noble then maybe the drinking culture should be knocked on the head, regular breath tests and substantial fines for those found to be over a pre ordaned unit level, ain't nowt wrong with a few bevies now and then but being rat arsed vexed several nights a week is uncalled for

: Fri Feb 27, 2009 6:09 pm  

as i have said before wigan was the best team because they had the best players etc. now leeds and st helens have been better at identifiing better players under the salery cap

: Fri Feb 27, 2009 8:02 pm  

Vicki_w wrote:

:lol: Warrington is one of only two teams that we can still laugh at so far this year!

Is the other one us?

: Fri Feb 27, 2009 8:15 pm  

Vicki_w wrote:

:lol: Warrington is one of only two teams that we can still laugh at so far this year!

Aye, 12-0 down to Wakey inside 15 mins

: Fri Feb 27, 2009 8:26 pm  

Swant a brew wrote:

Aye, 12-0 down to Wakey inside 15 mins

can't believe how $hite they are, all that expensive talent and they are Tommy Tank

Re: rl : Fri Feb 27, 2009 9:12 pm  

Father Ted wrote:

No it's not all Noble's fault.
Noble has won the lot and repeatedly, when he had the players.
He won't win anything here until we have better players.
That's front row, halves, centres & FB. We are ok back row and wings that's all. We need 6-7 new players and better than the ones we've got.
Brian Noble can identify them but he can't do anything unless Ian Lenagan signs the cheques and brings them in.
The lack of effort and concentration plus poor spirit is down to him. However, if those problems are due to the players themselves knowing they aren't good enough then it's down to both Noble and Lenagan to sort and quickly.
Like all poor performances by companies be they sports or anything else, the responsibility lies with the owners & BOD!
Wigan RLFC is no exception.

totally agree. nobby doesnt sign the players as people suggest, he suggests players. IL has final say. from there yes nobby should be doing a better job of the training and mentality but he can only work with what he is given.

signings wise, use of cap wise IL is no better than Mo for mine