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Re: Betfred
Post Mon Jan 15, 2018 10:48 pm
Posted by Call Me God on Mon Jan 15, 2018 10:48 pm
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northernbloke wrote:
Those figures come from league express by the way

I said reputable media outlet....
JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES?????
£20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000.
The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Wakefield is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover.

There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT:
Re: Betfred
Post Mon Jan 15, 2018 10:54 pm
Posted by northernbloke on Mon Jan 15, 2018 10:54 pm
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Ah I get it now It's not from a source you approve of therefore it must be wrong.
But like it or Not, it offered an answer to the question posed. Yes the 2 year deal for champ and league 1 looks like it involves more money not just the initial agreed amount from the 3 year sl deal
Re: Betfred
Post Mon Jan 15, 2018 11:42 pm
Posted by Call Me God on Mon Jan 15, 2018 11:42 pm
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So...when questioning my sources you highlight:
northernbloke wrote:
The interesting words above “thought to be worth”,


But when I question your source you are happy with:
northernbloke wrote:
looks like it involves more money not just the initial agreed amount..


..thought to....looks like.....and yet no confirmation either way from an organisation that is adept at blowing its own trumpet.

League Express is a rag that recycles and regurgitates forum gossip and is as often wrong as it is right....but it preaches to its ever dwindling audience of RL zealots...another "story" this week was that Hamilton and Boston want in by February 2019.....it seems that pin dropping and praying for an associated TV deal is the new "expansionism" :CRAZY:
...meanwhile, in the real world, the game faces diminishing gates, slowing viewing figures, drastically reduced playing numbers and after a few seasons, it would seem we're heading back to 14 SL sides with Bradford and London being replaced by Toronto and Toulouse, the first with no player pool to choose from and limited access to a TV audience and the other playing out of a 4k capacity stadium.
JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES?????
£20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000.
The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Wakefield is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover.

There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT:
Re: Betfred
Post Mon Jan 15, 2018 11:57 pm
Posted by northernbloke on Mon Jan 15, 2018 11:57 pm
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What ever you say
Of course there is no more money in the deal, couldn't possibly be anything positive could there, it's not from your approved source so yep must be wrobg
The topic is betfred, why try drag it elsewher
Re: Betfred
Post Tue Jan 16, 2018 12:15 am
Posted by Call Me God on Tue Jan 16, 2018 12:15 am
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northernbloke wrote:
What ever you say
Of course there is no more money in the deal, couldn't possibly be anything positive could there, it's not from your approved source so yep must be wrobg
The topic is betfred, why try drag it elsewher

...says the bloke that replied to a request for reputable media sources with "its' in league Express".. :lol: :lol: :lol:
JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES?????
£20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000.
The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Wakefield is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover.

There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT:
Re: Betfred
Post Tue Jan 16, 2018 9:40 pm
Posted by northernbloke on Tue Jan 16, 2018 9:40 pm
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Yep yr right dog. Could not possibly be right it's in a paper you dislike
Re: Betfred
Post Wed Jan 17, 2018 12:30 am
Posted by Call Me God on Wed Jan 17, 2018 12:30 am
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northernbloke wrote:
Yep yr right dog. Could not possibly be right it's in a paper you dislike

it's ONLY in League Express........no mention of any additional revenue in any of the sports marketing publications or even on the RFL site itself....just for the Audience who will lap it up, but not for general consumption lest someone question the fiscal ability of the RFL when it comes to "negotiations".
The RFL knew Kingstone were not renewing and had months to attract a paying sponsor.....like when they announced Betfred the day after the Grand Final and the end of the previous sponsorship, but instead we get a bolted on affair a few weeks before the season starts.....but as long as we tell the paying readers of a paywall protected RL publication, they'll believe we're financial wizards :CRAZY:
JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES?????
£20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000.
The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Wakefield is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover.

There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT:
Re: Betfred
Post Wed Jan 17, 2018 4:16 pm
Posted by northernbloke on Wed Jan 17, 2018 4:16 pm
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Yep yr right dog. It’s all about the source. Figures are all made up. Obviously Betfred get more coverage for no more money. Reported numbers could not possibly be right.
Anyone know what Kingston press deal was worth?
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