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Re: Super 8’s scrapped from 2019
Post Wed Jun 13, 2018 8:28 pm
Posted by Mr Dog on Wed Jun 13, 2018 8:28 pm
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9,525 was the average attendance at Castleford in 2017.....5,289 was the number at Wakefield...one club is closer to 10k than the other and those extra fans make them closer to self sustainability.
10k average is the self sufficiency number....and that's with the SKY cash.......every fan below 10,000 means £15/£20 less income and £15/£20 needed to be found from elsewhere.........thus, currently, Wakefield aren't as close to sustainability as Castleford and therefore by association are bigger and are more sustainable whilst filling more of their potential.


So Cas are currently attracting 22% of the town's population - a figure that is not only going to be difficult to grow but also a bit of an outlier in terms of their usual numbers over the years - a very good season last year on the playing front having I'd say a pretty significant effect on those numbers and once their on field success wanes (at it will) numbers will drop again. Another factor against them growing much more is that even if they do actually get a new ground the published plan is for a stadium wirh a capacity of 10000 so they will have to be selling out EVERY week to become sustainable (based on your figures). If the plan really is to grow the game and attract new, significant money, it won't happen with the current incumbents remaining.
Re: Super 8’s scrapped from 2019
Post Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:08 am
Posted by Call Me God on Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:08 am
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Mr Dog wrote:
So Cas are currently attracting 22% of the town's population - a figure that is not only going to be difficult to grow but also a bit of an outlier in terms of their usual numbers over the years - a very good season last year on the playing front having I'd say a pretty significant effect on those numbers and once their on field success wanes (at it will) numbers will drop again. Another factor against them growing much more is that even if they do actually get a new ground the published plan is for a stadium wirh a capacity of 10000 so they will have to be selling out EVERY week to become sustainable (based on your figures). If the plan really is to grow the game and attract new, significant money, it won't happen with the current incumbents remaining.

If you want to p!ss on Castleford, either do it on their board or on the Wakey one, but on here....and as a 100% NEUTRAL....... Castleford are the bigger and better supported team to the outside observer....this is based on facts and not what you or any other bar room annalist and their mother think.....just facts......like cash, the things you can touch, feel and take to the Bank! :SUBMISSION:
JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES?????
£20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000.
The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover.

There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT:
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