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Re: David Hughes hobby
Post Mon Nov 13, 2017 9:20 pm
Posted by Call Me God on Mon Nov 13, 2017 9:20 pm
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northernbloke wrote:
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What happened last time when he nearly walked?

The RFL bunged the landlord 100k to take us in.
If they hadn't, wed have folded and SL would have had a skewed fixture list.......as it was we were woefully unprepared and were relegated with only 1 win all year and an average gate of 1,295....again, another example of one mans arrogance impacting negatively on the club.
We lost 1,000 fans from our last year at the Stoop to our first at the Hive....1,000 fans! That is 13,000 over the season at a score a pop let's call it an even quarter of a million in lost revenue.....more than the rent at the Stoop.....so maths and marketing are at least 2 things we know he's not very good at!
JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES?????
£20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000.
The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover.

There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT:
Re: David Hughes hobby
Post Tue Nov 14, 2017 7:20 pm
Posted by northernbloke on Tue Nov 14, 2017 7:20 pm
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So you are saying that we would have folded.
Point proven I believe.
If mr Hughes decided to do a kougash next week, the LBSA would not be stepping up to run the club, there would be no club
Re: David Hughes hobby
Post Wed Nov 15, 2017 9:30 am
Posted by nkpom on Wed Nov 15, 2017 9:30 am
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That may well be true which is why the Club needs to plan for a transition. Already two years of that possible transition at Ealing wasted - we don't want to start a Phoenix Club https://phoenixrl.wordpress.com when it all goes South surely?
Re: David Hughes hobby
Post Wed Nov 15, 2017 7:45 pm
Posted by Call Me God on Wed Nov 15, 2017 7:45 pm
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northernbloke wrote:
If mr Hughes decided to do a kougash next week, the LBSA would not be stepping up to run the club, there would be no club

Yes....and Hughes could sit back, look at the receipts for the 20 million (20,000,000)he's owed satisfied that "HE WAS RIGHT" and everyone else who tried to steer him down a different route was wrong.....this includes a Multi-SL winning coach, the Successful owner of Wigan, The man responsible for marketing the Big Bash and also the growth of crowds at the Melbourne Storm, A media consultancy employed by the RFL who helped the likes of Wakey and Castleford reverse the decline in crowds and pretty much anyone else who wasn't fawning over him.......and he'll congratulate himself on the appointments of Blanchard, Mackay, Powell and Grima as masterstrokes, same for the lovely new blue horse logo and the venue in the wilderness followed by the wedding venue and the reduction in interest to fewer that 250 season ticket holders

How anyone can defend someone who has continued to Kill the club with perceived kindness is beyond me......it really is. Just because he writes cheques doesn't give him the right to destroy a club with his sheer arrogance :twisted:
JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES?????
£20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000.
The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover.

There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT:
Re: David Hughes hobby
Post Thu Nov 16, 2017 7:49 pm
Posted by northernbloke on Thu Nov 16, 2017 7:49 pm
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So I ask the question. What do you suggest? And who says he is owed 18million?
Kill the club? Or been the only lifeblood of the club
Re: David Hughes hobby
Post Thu Nov 16, 2017 9:36 pm
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northernbloke wrote:
And who says he is owed 18million?

opening post of this thread.....pay attention

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So I ask the question. What do you suggest?
Kill the club? Or been the only lifeblood of the club


A decade ago I'd have asked hi to set out a 10 year plan, reducing his financial input by 200k a year. I'd ask that he employ qualified people into key roles and not witter away his money on star players, bad fiscal policies and other god know what......with the intention of a club where he could maybe bankroll a marquee player, but one that wouldn't be hopelessly addicted to his handouts.

Now?EITHER START TALKING TO FANS INTERESTED IN LOOKING AT NEW OWNERSHIP MODELS OR I'D LIKE TO SEE HIM OFFER THE CLUB FOR SALE FOR A QUID, WITH NO DEBTS ATTACHED!

He'll do neither of these because his ego won't ever let him think that he's failed....as for being the "lifeblood", it is crueler to let something die slowly and painfully because you can't let go than it is to put it out of its misery....and that's what he has done, except with each passing year he has added to the pain and prolonged the misery.....this club has been at deaths door for a decade or so now...it's just there's a few of us left praying for a cure and Dr Hughes ain't the one to deliver it!
JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES?????
£20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000.
The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover.

There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT:
Re: David Hughes hobby
Post Fri Nov 17, 2017 9:53 pm
Posted by northernbloke on Fri Nov 17, 2017 9:53 pm
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The club are into him for Seventeen odd Million and Ian Lenegan just over two.

Pay attention dog, nothing there says he is expecting the money back, so he is not owed at all, they were yr words.
Mr Hughes keeps putting his money in because he wants it to keep going. Yep there needs to be plan for succession but I stand by what I say, if he walks tomorrow, the club folds, ego? Utter tosh
Re: David Hughes hobby
Post Sat Nov 18, 2017 6:10 pm
Posted by northernbloke on Sat Nov 18, 2017 6:10 pm
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Dog, no one denies that we need new investment, only problem is no one is stepping up, pretty sure DH would happily let someone come in with a pocket full of dosh, ego stopping him let someone take over !!!!! Rubbish
There just is no one!
So chicken and egg situation in reverse.
Can't live with him in your opinion, can't live without him!
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