Re: LETS ALL UNITE - HOME TRUTHS : Sat Mar 17, 2018 5:35 pm  

Stone has said thewlis has no input into WHO is signed- only on the contracts based on the finances available on the cap. Not sure how Thorman is to blame- he is an assistant not an associate coach. Stone has the final say.
I’ve questioned whether stone is doing a good job for a long time- Well all those saying give him a chance it’s not his fault, are keeping very very quiet now. I get it takes time to make improvements- but I’ve yet to see one that he’s made. There’s not one recruitment he’s made that has proven better, and not one of our players has improved under him other than leeming.
As for the youngsters- that’s little to do with Stones’ input other than his willingness to give them a go. That’s all down to Andy kelly and largely Thorman who coached these lads for three years in the 19’s.

Re: LETS ALL UNITE - HOME TRUTHS : Sun Mar 18, 2018 9:17 pm  

Signing Brough just shows poor planning to me. Where was/is the succession plan for him? Are we waiting til Isaac Farrell is ready? Our recruitment just seems incredibly shotgun and continuously leaves us saddled with average ageing players. Half Backs are obviously not the easiest to pick up, but I just don't see succession planning at all across the team.

Re: LETS ALL UNITE - HOME TRUTHS : Mon Mar 19, 2018 1:38 pm  

Big Eorls Blouse wrote:

Signing Brough just shows poor planning to me. Where was/is the succession plan for him? Are we waiting til Isaac Farrell is ready? Our recruitment just seems incredibly shotgun and continuously leaves us saddled with average ageing players. Half Backs are obviously not the easiest to pick up, but I just don't see succession planning at all across the team.

isaac farrell wont make super league.

brough i suppose they just think he can still operate at this level, which he can but we wont improve but then again neither is super league as a whole.

can we afford to go out and buy a quality half back? ikahihifo and roberts will have improved their wages with their new deals... takes a chunk of the cap

Re: LETS ALL UNITE - HOME TRUTHS : Tue Mar 20, 2018 8:27 pm  

brearley84 wrote:

:lol: isaac farrell wont make super league.

brough i suppose they just think he can still operate at this level, which he can but we wont improve but then again neither is super league as a whole.

can we afford to go out and buy a quality half back? ikahihifo and roberts will have improved their wages with their new deals... takes a chunk of the cap

That's something that always surprises me a bit People shouting for players to be resigned on better deals to stop other clubs supposedly signing them, Always improving their wages , always on the back of another season of mediocrity , God knows what they would want if they ever showed even a sign of winning anything.

Re: LETS ALL UNITE - HOME TRUTHS : Wed Mar 21, 2018 2:24 pm  

Jo Jumbuck wrote:

That's something that always surprises me a bit People shouting for players to be resigned on better deals to stop other clubs supposedly signing them, Always improving their wages , always on the back of another season of mediocrity , God knows what they would want if they ever showed even a sign of winning anything.

do you suggest we lose ikahihifo and roberts then?

Re: LETS ALL UNITE - HOME TRUTHS : Thu Mar 22, 2018 1:47 am  

I’d say yes if it meant paying inflated wages to them weakened the rest of the squad.

Re: LETS ALL UNITE - HOME TRUTHS : Thu Mar 22, 2018 10:50 am  

jools wrote:

I’d say yes if it meant paying inflated wages to them weakened the rest of the squad.

Isn't that how it works for every club? It's a salary capped sport. Your best players will always get paid larger wages. Seb was our only player to make the dream team last year therefore deserves a better wage.

I suppose the main question is which positions on do you want your highest paid players? It would seem that 1,6,7 and 9 are the most influential players on a pitch.

A large portion of our cap surely goes to Jerry and Leroy who are neither those positions. Then you have the new deals to Seb and Roberts...

Re: LETS ALL UNITE - HOME TRUTHS : Thu Mar 22, 2018 1:25 pm  

Chetnik wrote:

Isn't that how it works for every club? It's a salary capped sport. Your best players will always get paid larger wages. Seb was our only player to make the dream team last year therefore deserves a better wage.

I suppose the main question is which positions on do you want your highest paid players? It would seem that 1,6,7 and 9 are the most influential players on a pitch.

A large portion of our cap surely goes to Jerry and Leroy who are neither those positions. Then you have the new deals to Seb and Roberts...

Youll find a huge portion of our cap goes to Hinchliffe, Murphy, Symonds, Wakeman and Mamo - all of who contribute very little for me this season....Wakeman and Symonds contribute absolutely nothing at all.

Losing Hinchy, Wakeman, Symonds and Murphy should allow us to strengthen massively.

Would I take Hardaker if he became available for next season? 100%

Re: LETS ALL UNITE - HOME TRUTHS : Thu Mar 22, 2018 1:37 pm  

Yeah you're talking 400-450k there, that's 3/4 top class players that could come in, if we have any pulling power left.

Re: LETS ALL UNITE - HOME TRUTHS : Thu Mar 22, 2018 1:44 pm  

jools wrote:

I’d say yes if it meant paying inflated wages to them weakened the rest of the squad.

who knows what we are paying them to say they are inflated... ? im sure they will have had improved deals though which is fair as seb made the dream team and was a stand our performer and roberts impressed in the world cup and is progressing ...well maybe he was and stopped on this seasons showings but not his fault not being used correctly.