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Wigan - Thoughts!
Post Sun Mar 19, 2017 5:49 pm
Posted by GiantJake1988 on Sun Mar 19, 2017 5:49 pm
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Great point after I expected us to get hammered leading into the game - but really we should have won.

Positives!

We got on the scoreboard.

We should have won.

Better defensive effort.

Brough & Gaskell work much better than Brough & Brierley and we have got to stick with this now.

McIntosh had a good game again and should get his place at full back next week.

Ollie Roberts and the forwards ran hard.

Negatives.

Frustrating as we are literally the only team in the league who can miss a penalty more or less near the sticks to then concede straight away in the next set to then get another penalty in front of the sticks decide to play the ball and Paul Clough knock on immediately right by their line in the 1st carry.

Our "Senior players" make more errors than our youngsters. Taai always seem to knock on 2 times per game and Ryan Hinchliffe is beginning to make 1 error per game either a knock on or a loose pass which leads to a try for the opposition, same again today. Really don't rate him at all.

We look vulnerable out wide quite often.

Overall

We cant get carried away as Wigan had a further 2 senior players missing from a already depleted squad against Warrington last week in Liam Farrell, Sam Tomkins, Oliver Gildart, Joe Burgess, Dom Manfredi, Michael McIlorum, Ryan Sutton, Lewis Tierney & John Bateman - ALL players who would walk into our team plus a 10th with O Loughlin going off injured in first 5 minutes.

We have still only scored 24 points in 3 games.

Still need to improve again to beat Leeds next week.

When Mamo is fit I think he should replace Murphy on the wing to start with or if he goes to FB then McIntosh to replace Murphy on the wing.

I think Alex Mellor will improve massively after a pre season with us in the centre position, bit hard been with a championship club till the week before the superleague season started then getting thrown in the deep end with a superleague club who are struggling.
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Post Sun Mar 19, 2017 6:02 pm
Posted by Code13 on Sun Mar 19, 2017 6:02 pm
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Don't forget were still on our third string back row

Missing our star fullback

I'll agree with Hinchy though, he is the new Grix - 90% excellent 10% liability
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Post Sun Mar 19, 2017 6:06 pm
Posted by GiantJake1988 on Sun Mar 19, 2017 6:06 pm
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Code13 wrote:
Don't forget were still on our third string back row

Missing our star fullback

I'll agree with Hinchy though, he is the new Grix - 90% excellent 10% liability


Id say 40% solid, 30% average. 30% liability. I know other players do make mistakes etc but Hinchliffes mistakes always lead to an opposition try - that 1 try per game could cost us in close games.

You cant compare Wigans injured list of quality players to the quality of ours missing really can you.

When Lawrence and Symonds come back it allows Taai to move to prop which will be a big help to replace Paul Clough.

Good news is Symonds should be back same time as Mamo.

Id like to see Nathan Mason back and Adam O'Brien rotating with Leeming too.
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Post Sun Mar 19, 2017 6:21 pm
Posted by Code13 on Sun Mar 19, 2017 6:21 pm
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The back row is the engine room in defence and attack, with us missing those players everything else is reduced

Taai back at prop and we have way more grunt up front

Symonds running wide makes our left hand attack way more potent as does Fergy and Bruno back at loose stiffens up our middle defence no end

They are big misses for us and no mistake
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Post Sun Mar 19, 2017 7:05 pm
Posted by GiantJake1988 on Sun Mar 19, 2017 7:05 pm
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Hopefully Ferguson will be back next week and I think Nathan Mason is also back from injury too next week that been the case I would go with something like this:

1. Darnell
2. Jerry
3. Cudjoe
4. Mellor
5. Murphy
6. Brough
7. Gaskell
8. Rapira
9. Leeming
10. Ikahihifo
11. Ferguson
12. Roberts
13. Hinchliffe

14. Mason/Wakeman
15. Taai
16. Smith
17. Brierley

Think the more Darnell plays the better and better he will get. No matter how well he plays its obvious he is going to be dropped for Mamo but I hope Stone at least puts him on the wing when that happens.
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Re: Wigan - Thoughts!
Post Sun Mar 19, 2017 7:09 pm
Posted by jools on Sun Mar 19, 2017 7:09 pm
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:DOH: Ikahihifo- just what was he doing giving away that penalty!

Why the heck didn't we go for the drop goal on third or fourth instead of waiting until brough was under pressure on The last! Some poor game management in that last 15 mins.
Hope mason is back for as wakeman didn't offer much again. Where is the guy on the video knocking players over like skittles and carrying three in his back for 10 metres!
Campbell was blooming awful. When we were on their line half the Wigan defence were offside constantly and he didn't penalise them for it once- was blatant and yet he put us on a team warning in the second half!
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Post Sun Mar 19, 2017 7:12 pm
Posted by GiantJake1988 on Sun Mar 19, 2017 7:12 pm
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jools wrote:
:DOH: Ikahihifo- just what was he doing giving away that penalty!

Why the heck didn't we go for the drop goal on third or fourth instead of waiting until brough was under pressure on The last! Some poor game management in that last 15 mins.
Campbell was blooming awful. When we were on their line half the Wigan defence were offside constantly and he didn't penalise them for it once- was blatant and yet he put us on a team warning in the second half!


Agreed some very poor decisions by ourselves you know most teams up our end would be putting the 1 point over and winning the game but overall much better than previous weeks.

We need to keep the Brough/Gaskell partnership now and move on and build.

I still think our best 17 would include Mamo, O Brien, Symonds, Lawrence and Nathan Mason when all fit. Players like Clough ans Smith are squad men and would be no where near the starting 17 if all players were fit. Wakeman its still too early to decide. Dickinson is developing well is still only 19 so plenty of time to improve - especially for a prop.
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Post Sun Mar 19, 2017 7:13 pm
Posted by jools on Sun Mar 19, 2017 7:13 pm
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Oops meant Kendall!
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Post Sun Mar 19, 2017 7:21 pm
Posted by brearley84 on Sun Mar 19, 2017 7:21 pm
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agree with most

not having this wigan depleted squad stuff, ok they are but they had the ref today and beat warrington last week , we arent at full strength either.

mcintosh a positive but needs to work on attack but he will continue to improve.

not sure mellor is a top sl centre., shame we dont have another whatuira, chance today to put murphy in for a try and it was an awful forward pass

we seem to like having second rowers playing as centres though look at joe wardle
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Post Sun Mar 19, 2017 7:24 pm
Posted by jools on Sun Mar 19, 2017 7:24 pm
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Joe was a centre playing at second row- not a second row playing at centre!
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