Re: Massive shakeup required but stupidity preventing it!!! : Tue Oct 18, 2016 11:13 am  

the stella kid wrote:

People talk about salary cap issues. But we already know Grix and Connor have gone. I would also look to offload Crabtree,Wood,Ormsby,Wardle and Johnson.
If the Bradford three have signed and we then add a fullback (Hardaker?) an outside back (Mamo?) and a decent prop forward then I think we will have a really good squad and I would imagine the incoming salaries would be covered by the outgoing salaries.

I'm 100% with you. None of the above would be much of a miss presently. Mamo, Hardaker and a Top prop and we do look like we have a excellent team. Problem is who would we get? We don't have enough quota spots for Mamo and another overseas do we?

Re: Massive shakeup required but stupidity preventing it!!! : Tue Oct 18, 2016 11:22 am  

GiantJake1988 wrote:

I'm 100% with you. None of the above would be much of a miss presently. Mamo, Hardaker and a Top prop and we do look like we have a excellent team. Problem is who would we get? We don't have enough quota spots for Mamo and another overseas do we?

Not sure of the quota rules to be honest. However there are ways around if we are full or we could also look in this country. Not sure who is available but hopefully the club have been working hard to recruit.

Re: Massive shakeup required but stupidity preventing it!!! : Tue Oct 18, 2016 11:44 am  

the stella kid wrote:

Not sure of the quota rules to be honest. However there are ways around if we are full or we could also look in this country. Not sure who is available but hopefully the club have been working hard to recruit.

As far as I am aware, unless it's changed in the last couple of years, We are allowed 7 nonfederation trained players within that we are allowed 5 overseas players. Taai and ikahihifo do not class as overseas as they are from countries that have signed the Cotonou agreement and due to the Kolpak ruling are free to work within the EU as EU citizens (Brexit may change that) but they are classed as non-fed trained.
We have rapira, symonds and Hinchcliffe who are classed as overseas. So I make it we have space for two overseas players unless I've missed someone.

Re: Massive shakeup required but stupidity preventing it!!! : Tue Oct 18, 2016 11:53 am  

jools wrote:

As far as I am aware, unless it's changed in the last couple of years, We are allowed 7 nonfederation trained players within that we are allowed 5 overseas players. Taai and ikahihifo do not class as overseas as they are from countries that have signed the Cotonou agreement and due to the Kolpak ruling are free to work within the EU as EU citizens (Brexit may change that) but they are classed as non-fed trained.
We have rapira, symonds and Hinchcliffe who are classed as overseas. So I make it we have space for two overseas players unless I've missed someone.

So there is room for Mamo and a prop. If we're looking closer to home Geeenwood from Hull Kr maybe a good shout.

Re: Massive shakeup required but stupidity preventing it!!! : Tue Oct 18, 2016 12:41 pm  

bulls2487 wrote:

Lee Gaskell didn't offer much of a kicking game at Bulls. Not much of a leader in half's either. Not the same player since Groat broke his jaw in July 15 missed half of our games since.

I'd agree with that, he's also not a centre, might be able to cover it (although not sure he's actually done that in the last 3 or 4 years), but he's not a starting super league quality centre. He is very dangerous with ball in hand and room to move and can create for others and knows how to finish, he was a class above in the championship...when fit or not refusing to play (rumour)... His best position by a distance is 6, you'll regret it playing him at centre IMHO and you wont see the best of him at FB.
Any ideas why the giants have not yet announced the Bradford 3?

Re: Massive shakeup required but stupidity preventing it!!! : Tue Oct 18, 2016 1:08 pm  

Duckman wrote:

I'd agree with that, he's also not a centre, might be able to cover it (although not sure he's actually done that in the last 3 or 4 years), but he's not a starting super league quality centre. He is very dangerous with ball in hand and room to move and can create for others and knows how to finish, he was a class above in the championship...when fit or not refusing to play (rumour)... His best position by a distance is 6, you'll regret it playing him at centre IMHO and you wont see the best of him at FB.
Any ideas why the giants have not yet announced the Bradford 3?

Cause they are crap signings that our current coach doesn't actually want?

Re: Massive shakeup required but stupidity preventing it!!! : Tue Oct 18, 2016 1:22 pm  

the stella kid wrote:

People talk about salary cap issues. But we already know Grix and Connor have gone. I would also look to offload Crabtree,Wood,Ormsby,Wardle and Johnson.
If the Bradford three have signed and we then add a fullback (Hardaker?) an outside back (Mamo?) and a decent prop forward then I think we will have a really good squad and I would imagine the incoming salaries would be covered by the outgoing salaries.

Can't argue with any of that

Re: Massive shakeup required but stupidity preventing it!!! : Tue Oct 18, 2016 3:26 pm  

jools wrote:

Cause they are crap signings that our current coach doesn't actually want?

Correct !

Re: Massive shakeup required but stupidity preventing it!!! : Tue Oct 18, 2016 5:56 pm  

giants trying to get out of the bradford 3 deals then?? hope thewlis hasnt c*cked up yet again

Re: Massive shakeup required but stupidity preventing it!!! : Tue Oct 18, 2016 6:43 pm  

brearley84 wrote:

giants trying to get out of the bradford 3 deals then?? hope thewlis hasnt c*cked up yet again

Rick did allude to something of that nature yes.