[Durham Giant]

Re: Some good news : Sat Jun 25, 2016 3:56 pm  

GiantDee wrote:

What matches has he dominated?

I was actually referring to dominant defence, which is pretty clear if you understand English. Our dominant force in defence would be Michael Lawrence.

You want to see a dominant prop look at what Fafita did to us on Thursday, even though he is a bit on the heavy side. Rapira has never had that impact on any game for us, happy to have him in our squad, but you are kidding yourself if you think he is one of the best props in super league, and that is the standard we should be aspiring to.

You may have noticed Michael Lawrence is one of the best defenders in Super League.

Your original comment can be read both ways. You should practice your English.


He is the best prop WE have which is all that matters now.

don't agree with you about Lawrence either. Solid but not spectacular or dominant. Not like Ellis at Hull or Westwood used to be.
Very rarely takes downs man by himself. Now that is dominant.

Re: Some good news : Sat Jun 25, 2016 4:53 pm  

Fafita had a great game no denying it, if he does that every week then great, but l doubt he will. Rapira is a very very consistent performer. He'll rarely catch the eye but just you spend a couple of matches watching him, you'll see.

Re: Some good news : Sat Jun 25, 2016 5:33 pm  

onlyanorthernsoul wrote:

Fafita had a great game no denying it, if he does that every week then great, but l doubt he will. Rapira is a very very consistent performer. He'll rarely catch the eye but just you spend a couple of matches watching him, you'll see.

agreed

Re: Some good news : Sat Jun 25, 2016 9:49 pm  

Durham Giant wrote:

Your original comment can be read both ways. You should practice your English.


He is the best prop WE have which is all that matters now.

don't agree with you about Lawrence either. Solid but not spectacular or dominant. Not like Ellis at Hull or Westwood used to be.
Very rarely takes downs man by himself. Now that is dominant.

Agree fully 100% and highlights all thats wrong at the Giants if fans think Bruno is dominant He is a decent defender in that he doesnt miss many tackles but what he doesnt do is hurt people in his tackles (not only one!!). Upto this season his go forward was non existant, he seemed to have fixed that up in first half of season but seems to be slipping back into his old ways of dropping to floor as soon as a hand his layed upon him, Eorl been doing this far too long too. No fire or aggression in either of em on the pitch and imo if everyone was fit with a decent coach in place neither will be getting much gametime going forward. Props we have Rapira, Seb, Huby and Mason all ahead of Eorl and backrow we have Symonds, Taai, Hinchy (loose forward is his natural position) and Roberts all ahead of Bruno.
If Wardle is off next season my starting 13 would be:
A N Other (Need to sign top fullback)
Jerry
Leroy
A N Other (need a top class centre)
Ormsby
Brierley
Brough
Huby
Leeming
Rapira
Symonds
Taai
Hinchcliffe

Re: Some good news : Sat Jun 25, 2016 10:13 pm  

I wouldn't pay Eorl in washers I really wouldn't. The guy is a fantastic icon for the club but as a player he has given up upstairs, complaining about his treatment by the sport that pays his wages and blocking fans on Twitter.

Has no impact in games, limited work rate, looks overweight (there's a theme there) and has no desire anymore. Sad but true. Deny it all you want.

Re: Some good news : Sun Jun 26, 2016 10:43 am  

FLYINGPROP wrote:

Agree fully 100% and highlights all thats wrong at the Giants if fans think Bruno is dominant He is a decent defender in that he doesnt miss many tackles but what he doesnt do is hurt people in his tackles (not only one!!). Upto this season his go forward was non existant, he seemed to have fixed that up in first half of season but seems to be slipping back into his old ways of dropping to floor as soon as a hand his layed upon him, Eorl been doing this far too long too. No fire or aggression in either of em on the pitch and imo if everyone was fit with a decent coach in place neither will be getting much gametime going forward. Props we have Rapira, Seb, Huby and Mason all ahead of Eorl and backrow we have Symonds, Taai, Hinchy (loose forward is his natural position) and Roberts all ahead of Bruno.
If Wardle is off next season my starting 13 would be:
A N Other (Need to sign top fullback)
Jerry
Leroy
A N Other (need a top class centre)
Ormsby
Brierley
Brough
Huby
Leeming
Rapira
Symonds
Taai
Hinchcliffe

I could live with that.

Re: Some good news : Sun Jun 26, 2016 11:39 am  

Andrew J wrote:

I wouldn't pay Eorl in washers I really wouldn't. The guy is a fantastic icon for the club but as a player he has given up upstairs, complaining about his treatment by the sport that pays his wages and blocking fans on Twitter.

Has no impact in games, limited work rate, looks overweight (there's a theme there) and has no desire anymore. Sad but true. Deny it all you want.

He's a big average gain player for our side and a solid defender who makes few errors.
Having said that our average gain as a team isn't great.
We have scored more tries than Wakey and Wigan who are above us, our team is the second highest for tackles made and near the bottom for missed tackles. So why are we doing so bad? we are in the middle for errors, offloads and penalties- but at the bottom for clean breaks or tackle busts

Re: Some good news : Sun Jun 26, 2016 12:58 pm  

Durham Giant wrote:

Your original comment can be read both ways. You should practice your English.


He is the best prop WE have which is all that matters now.

How on earth can you interpret "ok in defence but not a dominant force" as a comment on anything but his defence?

Typical DG twisting to suit your all knowing opinion.

I never at any point said Rapira was not a decent player, but he is not the superstar he is being lauded as. I doubt there is one fan of another SL team that would think of Rapira as someone they really wish their team had. A fair few would want Ta'ai (whom I note you ignored in my comments as to whom was better - doesn't suit the DG twist?)

Our team are crap this year because of coaching, fitness and poor mentality amongst the players, not because I don't think Rapira is as good as hyped.

A site like this should allow opinions rather than be subject to the likes of you mocking others, which you do too often. I shall leave you to your delusions.

Re: Some good news : Sun Jun 26, 2016 3:21 pm  

FLYINGPROP wrote:

Agree fully 100% and highlights all thats wrong at the Giants if fans think Bruno is dominant He is a decent defender in that he doesnt miss many tackles but what he doesnt do is hurt people in his tackles (not only one!!). Upto this season his go forward was non existant, he seemed to have fixed that up in first half of season but seems to be slipping back into his old ways of dropping to floor as soon as a hand his layed upon him, Eorl been doing this far too long too. No fire or aggression in either of em on the pitch and imo if everyone was fit with a decent coach in place neither will be getting much gametime going forward. Props we have Rapira, Seb, Huby and Mason all ahead of Eorl and backrow we have Symonds, Taai, Hinchy (loose forward is his natural position) and Roberts all ahead of Bruno.
If Wardle is off next season my starting 13 would be:
A N Other (Need to sign top fullback)
Jerry
Leroy
A N Other (need a top class centre)
Ormsby
Brierley
Brough
Huby
Leeming
Rapira
Symonds
Taai
Hinchcliffe

we wont be signing a full back. we have brierley.

we may sign gaskell for centre...

we will look good if we can put our first 17 on the field

Re: Some good news : Sun Jun 26, 2016 3:42 pm  

Andrew J wrote:

I wouldn't pay Eorl in washers I really wouldn't. The guy is a fantastic icon for the club but as a player he has given up upstairs, complaining about his treatment by the sport that pays his wages and blocking fans on Twitter.

Has no impact in games, limited work rate, looks overweight (there's a theme there) and has no desire anymore. Sad but true. Deny it all you want.

Have to admit that he certainly seems to have gone a bit backward this season but we are still a better defensive team when Eorl is on the pitch, he doesn't miss many tackles. So for now he would always be in my 17 until somebody better comes along to replace him.
As for overweight I think you would be better looking at our no7 instead of no8.