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Re: Brierley signs for Toronto

Post Thu Apr 20, 2017 9:08 pm
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Durham Giant wrote:
Broughton

Huby

Kopczak

Eden

Kirmond

Hodgson released too early


I rest my case

Re: Brierley signs for Toronto

Post Thu Apr 20, 2017 10:43 pm
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surprised nobody has posted the actual facts surrounding this yet.....im sure it will come out soon

Re: Brierley signs for Toronto

Post Fri Apr 21, 2017 1:28 am
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jools wrote:
But changing our style to fit two players isn't going to work for the majority is it.


No Jools I fully concede that point and that of other posters on here
You don't need to raise the playing standard of the team and entertain the crowds if the attendance figures don't increase anyway ! May as well just continue playing same old whilst others turn themselves around and leave us wallowing Sorry I'd rather witness the influence Brett had those alongside him than us stagnate to fit "just pull on a pair of shorts" performances
As for the question re how many of those named have gone on to greater things?
As an answer " How many are playing in teams in a lower position than us at the moment?
As regards the main focus of this topic - the team that offloaded him and who many on here thought would struggle may also have used him better
But maybe you're right!
We were saved from relegation last year by scintillating rugby and a coat of paint so why change a winning formula to accommodate a player we'd pursued for a considerable period.
Similar posters called for the sacking of a coach because "it wasn't working"
I can't say I've noticed us going onto greater things either
But try and convince me
I'll accept that - but can't accept others accepting offloading Brierley as nothing to get concerned about
What were you expecting - another Brett Hodgson ?

Yeah! Right!
No if Brierley was not "doing it right" and "doing it right" is bringing us success I can wear it
Is that the case?
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Re: Brierley signs for Toronto

Post Fri Apr 21, 2017 5:41 am
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the stella kid wrote:
Get real. Huby has achieved what in the short time since he left. kopzack won the league with us and played well. He has played well with Salford and won nothing. Kirmond played in play off games for us and has achieved virtually nothing at Wakefield. Eden was a liability at full back and although playing well now in a good side has achieved nothing since he left.
If Brierley was good enough then other super league teams would have been looking to sign him.


They are all players who have played better at other clubs than they did at the Giants.

E.G
Huby at cas great.
At Giants gash.
at Wakey good.
Maybe a small pattern but a pattern.

From comments on the forum I think it would be fair to say that most posters would swap the following

Clough wakeman. For Huby and Kopczak

Broughton for. Ormsby

Kirmond for ferguson

Etc.

How many players do we have who are not good enough. How many have we let go who are probably better at the current time.


At the end of the day we have brought players in who for whatever reason have not reached their potential whilst at the Giants. Either they were the wrong signings at the time which is a concern or the were the right players at the time that we could not get to work at the Giants which is a concern.

Either the recruitment of brierley was wrong or the coaching and tactics were wrong. I don't buy this if he was good enough he would have made it in any team. Half backs more than anyone are dependent on what the forwards give them and the backs are capable of doing.

Everyone knew Brierley was a support player who finished off breaks. He was not a kicker he was not an organiser he was not a magician in the halves.

We never ever used him in terms of his strengths. We should either not have bought him or should have used him properly.


But to be honest it was a panic buy because our recruitment has been dire since Brown left
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Re: Brierley signs for Toronto

Post Fri Apr 21, 2017 9:15 am
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Durham Giant wrote:
They are all players who have played better at other clubs than they did at the Giants.

E.G
Huby at cas great.
At Giants gash.
at Wakey good.
Maybe a small pattern but a pattern.

From comments on the forum I think it would be fair to say that most posters would swap the following

Clough wakeman. For Huby and Kopczak

Broughton for. Ormsby

Kirmond for ferguson

Etc.

How many players do we have who are not good enough. How many have we let go who are probably better at the current time.


At the end of the day we have brought players in who for whatever reason have not reached their potential whilst at the Giants. Either they were the wrong signings at the time which is a concern or the were the right players at the time that we could not get to work at the Giants which is a concern.

Either the recruitment of brierley was wrong or the coaching and tactics were wrong. I don't buy this if he was good enough he would have made it in any team. Half backs more than anyone are dependent on what the forwards give them and the backs are capable of doing.

Everyone knew Brierley was a support player who finished off breaks. He was not a kicker he was not an organiser he was not a magician in the halves.

We never ever used him in terms of his strengths. We should either not have bought him or should have used him properly.


But to be honest it was a panic buy because our recruitment has been dire since Brown left


No- he wasn't brought in to play in the halves though was he? Anderson had one idea, stone another. Our wonderful new coach decided that he wasn't a fullback and brought in one from Aus.
For me brierley will not make it as a half back in SL. He doesn't have the full skill set. Whether he would have made a better fullback- we will probably not know. Stone thought not.
But then Stone doesn't seem to be doing so well ATM.
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Re: Brierley signs for Toronto

Post Fri Apr 21, 2017 12:00 pm
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Bloody hell its hard work !
At the risk of repeating myself - why the hell then did we buy him to convert him into a full back
Weve had that "illness" for b---y years
We messed araound with Lawrence when he was playing centre -then he could perhaps be a winger -then 2nd row We bulked the lad up and now posters criticise him as purely being a tackling machine with little go forward ! He was playing well inside Cudjoe and tightened up the wing defence --but oh no lets mess!
Thorman was on the verge of being a full international in the halves with a bright future --and hey lets make him into a Full nack who with a speedy 2nd rower like Tai running at him was like "try time"
Robinson was an eye opener at half back on the Aus tour - but hey lets make him into a hooker where his "scoot" impact can be minimised - and it generally was
If youre lacking in a position for goodness sake buy someone whos come through the junior ranks playing there and to whom its second nature instead of perpetually asking for this damned utilty concept
Cudjoe was becoming a pretty good back up goal kicker -but theres been no evidence of utilising the fact for seasons even when Broughie was having a mare
So once again the knifes gone in the foot and we stalked a player whos had limited chance to show his worth (IMO) Fastest player, static, putting the ball in the scrum instead of taking it firstor second receiver
A bloody joke ! But hey what next -- Tai in the centres? Would`nt be surprised !
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Re: Brierley signs for Toronto

Post Fri Apr 21, 2017 12:01 pm
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Cheaky post on Totalrl web. 5 players the giants might consider to replace, Breirley or even Brough


Jamie Ellis, they suggest buying him out of his Loan deal :?
Cooper Cronk, yeh right :CRAZY:
Johnathen Ford, doing ok at Toulouse, :!:
Jarred Mullen, Newcastle Knights, Stone, alredy been linked with Giants, Drug trial due, :shock:
Richie Myler, Out of contract next year, young, clever. :)

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Re: Brierley signs for Toronto

Post Fri Apr 21, 2017 12:52 pm
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quite clear from listening to brierley that his style of play just didnt fit for us, rick stone has his way of playing, brierley was starting to become unhappy with not playing too.

castleford and salfords style are working right now and i think this is the style that brierley thinks he fits into.

wigan play the same game as us , just better, they are the champions... so both styles of rugby work, not one is right and one is wrong.
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Re: Brierley signs for Toronto

Post Fri Apr 21, 2017 1:12 pm
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brearley84 wrote:
quite clear from listening to brierley that his style of play just didnt fit for us, rick stone has his way of playing, brierley was starting to become unhappy with not playing too.

castleford and salfords style are working right now and i think this is the style that brierley thinks he fits into.

wigan play the same game as us , just better, they are the champions... so both styles of rugby work, not one is right and one is wrong.


So correct me if I'm wrong?
OURS is working ! Right?
Wrong!
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Re: Brierley signs for Toronto

Post Fri Apr 21, 2017 2:35 pm
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the stella kid wrote:
Get real. Huby has achieved what in the short time since he left. kopzack won the league with us and played well. He has played well with Salford and won nothing. Kirmond played in play off games for us and has achieved virtually nothing at Wakefield. Eden was a liability at full back and although playing well now in a good side has achieved nothing since he left.
If Brierley was good enough then other super league teams would have been looking to sign him.


Agree with that. admittedly we should have kept Hodgson, still can't believe we let him go. If we replace Brierley with a decent, solid creative half I'll be more than happy.
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