Re: Gregg McNally : Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:59 pm  

ColD wrote:

So we don’t need £15k

I care because it affects the club I support, had it left the money in the bank it could have bought 2 Greg McNallys without the club having to beg

Do you understand the difference between ' should ' , and ' have ' ?

If LISA hadn't given the money for the last 3/4 years then either somebody else would have had to put it in ( Derek ) or we wouldn't have employed as many players ?

Stop acting stupid Col , you are better than that

Let's look at if LISA had stockpiled the cash in say 2015 and had stated they had £ 20K in the bank , do you think the LISA members would have continued donating for the last 3 years ?

My last words on this , if you do ' Care ' about the club , DONATE , otherwise quite simply mate its got buggerall to do with you

Re: Gregg McNally : Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:26 pm  

GUBRATS wrote:

Do you understand the difference between ' should ' , and ' have ' ?

If LISA hadn't given the money for the last 3/4 years then either somebody else would have had to put it in ( Derek ) or we wouldn't have employed as many players ?

Stop acting stupid Col , you are better than that

Let's look at if LISA had stockpiled the cash in say 2015 and had stated they had £ 20K in the bank , do you think the LISA members would have continued donating for the last 3 years ?

My last words on this , if you do ' Care ' about the club , DONATE , otherwise quite simply mate its got buggerall to do with you

Yes I do

Derek would

No idea, do the members know where the money went, on what, and how much is in the coffers

If the only people to ‘care’ about the club DONATED, then we’d be heading for a very low attendance this season. Like you say, buggerall to do with me - only supported the club for more than 45 years, thank god you won’t be commenting further on the subject

Re: Gregg McNally : Sun Jan 13, 2019 2:47 pm  

GUBRATS wrote:

Do you understand the difference between ' should ' , and ' have ' ?

If LISA hadn't given the money for the last 3/4 years then either somebody else would have had to put it in ( Derek ) or we wouldn't have employed as many players ?

Stop acting stupid Col , you are better than that

Let's look at if LISA had stockpiled the cash in say 2015 and had stated they had £ 20K in the bank , do you think the LISA members would have continued donating for the last 3 years ?

My last words on this , if you do ' Care ' about the club , DONATE , otherwise quite simply mate its got buggerall to do with you

So basically if you don’t donate you don’t care? What an embarrassing statement, what if someone can’t afford to do so? Its basically guilt tripping or blackmail.

Re: Gregg McNally : Sun Jan 13, 2019 2:53 pm  

Draexnael wrote:

So basically if you don’t donate you don’t care? What an embarrassing statement, what if someone can’t afford to do so? Its basically guilt tripping or blackmail.

Cmon Draexnael give us a break we have been told he has said his last word on the subject. .

Re: Gregg McNally : Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:23 pm  

Draexnael wrote:

So basically if you don’t donate you don’t care? What an embarrassing statement, what if someone can’t afford to do so? Its basically guilt tripping or blackmail.

No , not at all , but if you don't donate , then how and why LISA operates is NONE of YOUR business , if you are too stupid to see that , that's your problem

NOBODY has said it is compulsory , and NOBODY has criticised ANYBODY if they choose not to donate , BUT , if you don't buy a lottery ticket , don't moan about not winning the LOTTERY

Re: Gregg McNally : Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:28 pm  

It's a simple choice and very prudent of the club to work with and promote LISA IMO,

If you want to help the club, come and watch the team and do so.

If you want to join LISA and help the club fund a better team then do so.

If you want to watch better TV than freeview, subscribe to SKY Movies and do so.

If you want to go to the pub, drink beer and socialise do so.

If you can't do any of that then do not.

If you can only do one of the above then do it.

If you don't want to do any of that then don't.

Life is all about making simple CHOICES. Deary me. Talk about a storm in tea cup.

Re: Gregg McNally : Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:30 pm  

GUBRATS wrote:

No , not at all , but if you don't donate , then how and why LISA operates is NONE of YOUR business , if you are too stupid to see that , that's your problem

NOBODY has said it is compulsory , and NOBODY has criticised ANYBODY if they choose not to donate , BUT , if you don't buy a lottery ticket , don't moan about not winning the LOTTERY

Sorry but you are shifting the rugby posts. I don’t care how LISA operates, I do care about blackmail statements. It was a tough decision from my old man to renew his season ticket, I live away from Leigh so can’t go every week. His view is the club has been badly ran for years, lies upon lies have compounded this. He got to a point that the enjoyment was gone, the heart of the club was gone and why should he fork out more money (he sponsored Riddys shorts a few years ago) when it gets frittered away.

This started with a very poorly worded statement on the clubs web-site saying if people signed up to LISA we could afford to sign McNally, i.e. if they don’t he wont sign. Which turns out is a blatant lie. If it said through the fantastic work of the club and LISA we have afforded McNally but further signings could be made easier by you supporting LISA you’d get fantastic buy-in.

Re: Gregg McNally : Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:39 pm  

Montyburns wrote:

Could not agree more a few people who I have spoke to who usually sponsor players have said they not sponsoring this year as the club getting worse every year wanting more and more

Not my understanding if I am honest.

Most sponsors have been appreciative of the loss of £1.5 million central funding and the position we are now in. New sponsors have also come on board for 2019 and I know of one company, aiming for double digit growth this year keen to get involved for 2020.

There is also an understanding that to get back to where we belong we can only work with and reap what we can sow.

Re: Gregg McNally : Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:44 pm  

It is our Town, Our Team.

Ultimately it is the people of Leigh collectively behind it who will decide if the dream can be turned into a reality.

Re: Gregg McNally : Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:51 pm  

Harold Rigby Jnr wrote:

It's a simple choice and very prudent of the club to work with and promote LISA IMO,

If you want to help the club, come and watch the team and do so.

If you want to join LISA and help the club fund a better team then do so.

If you want to watch better TV than freeview, subscribe to SKY Movies and do so.

If you want to go to the pub, drink beer and socialise do so.

If you can't do any of that then do not.

If you can only do one of the above then do it.

If you don't want to do any of that then don't.

Life is all about making simple CHOICES. Deary me. Talk about a storm in tea cup.

At, at last, a sensible suggestion!

Seriously though Harold, you are right - it's all a matter of personal choice. My personal opinion is, that if the club's statement had been worded differently (and coherently) we wouldn't be having this debate/argument now. (just as Draexnael said, afew posts back)