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Re: Is NO news GOOD NEWS ?
Post Wed Sep 19, 2018 9:14 am
Posted by Harry Stottle on Wed Sep 19, 2018 9:14 am
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Alan wrote:
Hi Brian,

I understand that fully and I wouldn't expect, or feel entitled, to know anything about that.

It's other aspects of communication I feel are lacking: -

e.g. How are the injuries to Liam Hood, Nathan Mason, and Rhys Evans progressing? (the lack of information on Hood, led to rumours that he had left the club)
Is Ryan Bailey still with us?
Is Jamie Acton to be considered for the remaining matches?
Why are we not producing a match day magazine?
Why was the scoreboard not working for the Swinton game?
Why was there no statement, thanking the players who left for 'pastures new' before the transfer deadline?
Why are we so quick to announce 'positive' news, but shy away from saying anything about the 'not so positive?

Do you get my drift? I've always been a firm believer in keeping your customers/potential customers informed. That way, they feel part of the club. We are failing miserably to do that, at the moment.

Thanking them, they are the reason we are in such a position, no wonder they are playing well for their new clubs, they have plenty of energy left after their efforts with Leigh this season, (Hansen excluded)
Re: Is NO news GOOD NEWS ?
Post Wed Sep 19, 2018 9:35 am
Posted by Alan on Wed Sep 19, 2018 9:35 am
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Harry Stottle wrote:
Thanking them, they are the reason we are in such a position, no wonder they are playing well for their new clubs, they have plenty of energy left after their efforts with Leigh this season, (Hansen excluded)


However well or badly they played, they get my thanks for wearing the shirt and stepping over that whitewash to play for Leigh. They probably weren't the best acquisitions we ever made, but they played for us. Surely, just even a one-line 'thank you' would have been ok? We have not been shown in a wonderful image, this past season, and I think it's an accumulation of the 'small' things like this, (and bigger ones!) that have contributed to our reputation amongst other clubs.
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Post Wed Sep 19, 2018 1:08 pm
Posted by Harry Stottle on Wed Sep 19, 2018 1:08 pm
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Alan wrote:
However well or badly they played, they get my thanks for wearing the shirt and stepping over that whitewash t[imgur][/imgur]o play for Leigh. They probably weren't the best acquisitions we ever made, but they played for us. Surely, just even a one-line 'thank you' would have been ok? We have not been shown in a wonderful image, this past season, and I think it's an accumulation 3of the 'small' things like this, (and bigger ones!) that have contributed to our reputation amongst other clubs.

What would that reputation be Alan, if you are a bang average player go to Leigh, you will get payed top dollar well in excess of that your abillity warrents.
I will never ever be convinced otherwise that those who I believe through a very reliable source 6 players who had contracts over 100K are the reason Leigh Centurions are in the dilemma we find the club in.
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Post Wed Sep 19, 2018 1:55 pm
Posted by Alan on Wed Sep 19, 2018 1:55 pm
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Harry Stottle wrote:
What would that reputation be Alan, if you are a bang average player go to Leigh, you will get payed top dollar well in excess of that your abillity warrents.
I will never ever be convinced otherwise that those who I believe through a very reliable source 6 players who had contracts over 100K are the reason Leigh Centurions are in the dilemma we find the club in.


That wasn't what I meant about our 'reputation' Harry. I fully understand, and agree with what you are saying about these players - especially if what you say about their remuneration is true! :shock: The blame for our 'situation' rests almost entirely on the shoulders of an under-performing group of players - in my opinion.

I was getting at a perceived (and justified?) lack of professionalism elsewhere in the club. Financial constraints, and a lack of bodies, are a couple of factors, leading to very little news coming out of the club, and what does come out appears heavily 'spun' at the moment. It is my opinion that you have to engage with your public, or risk losing them!

P.S. By the way, for clarification, I would not expect the club to be commenting on any future potential ownership - until any such deal is done and dusted.
Re: Is NO news GOOD NEWS ?
Post Wed Sep 19, 2018 4:41 pm
Posted by Harry Stottle on Wed Sep 19, 2018 4:41 pm
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Alan wrote:
That wasn't what I meant about our 'reputation' Harry. I fully understand, and agree with what you are saying about these players - especially if what you say about their remuneration is true! :shock: The blame for our 'situation' rests almost entirely on the shoulders of an under-performing group of players - in my opinion.

I was getting at a perceived (and justified?) lack of professionalism elsewhere in the club. Financial constraints, and a lack of bodies, are a couple of factors, leading to very little news coming out of the club, and what does come out appears heavily 'spun' at the moment. It is my opinion that you have to engage with your public, or risk losing them!

P.S. By the way, for clarification, I would not expect the club to be commenting on any future potential ownership - until any such deal is done and dusted.

Alan I was well aware of what you meant by the clubs reputation, cynically I took the opportunity to express my feelings, it really hurts to see where we are and considering where we should be with a wage bill of £1.68 M.
I agree with everthing else you penned, and yes the info of those contracts comes from a source who would be privvy to that information, no need to doubt him.
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Post Wed Sep 19, 2018 7:31 pm
Posted by Alan on Wed Sep 19, 2018 7:31 pm
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Harry Stottle wrote:
Alan I was well aware of what you meant by the clubs reputation, cynically I took the opportunity to express my feelings, it really hurts to see where we are and considering where we should be with a wage bill of £1.68 M.
I agree with everthing else you penned, and yes the info of those contracts comes from a source who would be privvy to that information, no need to doubt him.


Not cynically Harry - maybe realistically, eh? :wink: Just to think, when we signed these players, our owner was saying that he couldn't believe how KC had snapped them up at the price he paid. Being naive, I thought he meant we had got them at a bargain price!!

I don't know about you, but I feel gutted at the opportunity we were given, by the other SL clubs, and have blown it? We've been there before, but it seems even more painful this time! :(
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Post Wed Sep 19, 2018 10:57 pm
Posted by maurice on Wed Sep 19, 2018 10:57 pm
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Alan, you could put a thoroughbred in a race of Donkeys, but if he refused to run he wouldn't win
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Post Wed Sep 19, 2018 11:25 pm
Posted by Ste100Centurions on Wed Sep 19, 2018 11:25 pm
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Craig Hall, Jordan Thompson, Pete Mata'utia all very good signings & doing very well elsewhere, add to that Ben Crooks, James Clare & Bryson Goodwin *who the club/Derek should have moved heaven & earth to keep* I hope Brysons price was high, Ryan Hampshire doing well at Wakey + Samisoni Langi & Josh Drinkwater at Catalans, all lost or let go at various points.

We had a very good squad in both 2017 & 2018 barr the odd filler, what we lacked is a proven top level coach that the squad believed in & respected.

Edit.

We never really got to see the best of Pat Vai-Vai or anything much at all of Kyle Lovett who rarely got selected.
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Post Thu Sep 20, 2018 7:39 am
Posted by Alan on Thu Sep 20, 2018 7:39 am
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maurice wrote:
Alan, you could put a thoroughbred in a race of Donkeys, but if he refused to run he wouldn't win


Saints' coach Justin Holbrook, recently commented on the ridiculous situation where players who are responsible for bringing a club to its knees, were then promoted, en masse, to Super League. I wonder who/what he was talking about? :wink:
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Post Fri Sep 21, 2018 12:17 am
Posted by atomic on Fri Sep 21, 2018 12:17 am
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Harry Stottle wrote:
Alan I was well aware of what you meant by the clubs reputation, cynically I took the opportunity to express my feelings, it really hurts to see where we are and considering where we should be with a wage bill of £1.68 M.
I agree with everthing else you penned, and yes the info of those contracts comes from a source who would be privvy to that information, no need to doubt him.


No need to doubt who? I'm sure a few are questioning that at present.
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