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Re: Is NO news GOOD NEWS ?
Post Wed Aug 22, 2018 10:45 pm
Posted by Ste100Centurions on Wed Aug 22, 2018 10:45 pm
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charlie caroli wrote:
I've watched a lot of him this season on Premier Sports, he can kick goals, and can pass a ball as well, and as he has been playing at 7 all season, his tackling hasn't been needed much.Would you have him back ?

No, he will never be forgiven for trying *along with his agent* to screw the Club over. Toronto won't keep Ryan, he is not SL quality.
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Post Wed Aug 22, 2018 11:55 pm
Posted by Alan on Wed Aug 22, 2018 11:55 pm
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Ste100Centurions wrote:
No, he will never be forgiven for trying *along with his agent* to screw the Club over. Toronto won't keep Ryan, he is not SL quality.



That's certainly the view we were fed Ste. I do suspect there is another side to the story, as always.
Re: Is NO news GOOD NEWS ?
Post Thu Aug 23, 2018 1:14 am
Posted by atomic on Thu Aug 23, 2018 1:14 am
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Alan wrote:
That's certainly the view we were fed Ste. I do suspect there is another side to the story, as always.


He took a five year contract at Hudds didn't he? Followed by his mentor being offered the coaching role. Both failed.

There's no way I'm going down the lines of DB has gone and all will return..

Let's get real.
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Post Thu Aug 23, 2018 5:18 am
Posted by gunners guns13 on Thu Aug 23, 2018 5:18 am
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charlie caroli wrote:
I've watched a lot of him this season on Premier Sports, he can kick goals, and can pass a ball as well, and as he has been playing at 7 all season, his tackling hasn't been needed much.Would you have him back ?

Well let's compare to our halfs this year...Ryan can pass a ball a lot better than ours,his kicking game is far better that our halfs,can finish a try from 50yds plus ours cant but can't tackle any where near as well as our halfs...now we're talking about a 7 here so what type of 7 do fans want :THINK:
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Post Thu Aug 23, 2018 5:41 am
Posted by Montyburns on Thu Aug 23, 2018 5:41 am
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Ryan not a super league player he as proven that he is a good championship player I would have him back at Leigh. I would have riddy back at leigh to if fev are cutting wages in half and we offer same money as them I’m sure he would come back and cut out the travelling 3 times a week. I can’t honestly see drew and Ben stopping with us next season as they both have stated we should to start to try build a squad of decent part timers with ability to challenge for a top four spot similar to what Halifax have done and then build on that things are going to get worse before they get better we all know that
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Post Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:48 am
Posted by charlie caroli on Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:48 am
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Ryan not a super league player he as proven that he is a good championship player I would have him back at Leigh. I would have riddy back at leigh to if fev are cutting wages in half and we offer same money as them I’m sure he would come back and cut out the travelling 3 times a week. I can’t honestly see drew and Ben stopping with us next season as they both have stated we should to start to try build a squad of decent part timers with ability to challenge for a top four spot similar to what Halifax have done and then build on that things are going to get worse before they get better we all know that

Fully agree Monty 100% :thumb: ,I can't see Hutchy being with us next year , not sure about Ben, but Ryan and Riddy would be a good way to start building a team again,chuck in Higson and Pownall could be willing to return, we won't be a SL team so why mention SL class players?

As has been said , there are 2 sides to every story, maybe we have been told what was felt , we needed to be told.
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Post Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:53 am
Posted by charlie caroli on Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:53 am
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Well let's compare to our halfs this year...Ryan can pass a ball a lot better than ours,his kicking game is far better that our halfs,can finish a try from 50yds plus ours cant but can't tackle any where near as well as our halfs...now we're talking about a 7 here so what type of 7 do fans want :THINK:

Again Gunner, you are correct, scrum halves shouldn't have to tackle, Lee Briers and Long didn't, Ryan always goes to centre when the opposing side have the ball.Also the kids love him, he was always last off the field at the LSV posing for pics, and was a good ambassador for the Club.As was Riddy,he may not have been fully fit at the start of the season, but he certainly was when Fev arrived at the LSV this season.
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Post Thu Aug 23, 2018 10:04 am
Posted by Alan on Thu Aug 23, 2018 10:04 am
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He took a five year contract at Hudds didn't he? Followed by his mentor being offered the coaching role. Both failed.

There's no way I'm going down the lines of DB has gone and all will return..

Let's get real.


I think he was lucky to get that contract too.

However, in terms of getting real, do we seriously believe his departure was solely because of his & his agent's ambition/greed?! Or did the 'Club' play a significant role in the affair?

However, I can't see him returning now.
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Post Thu Aug 23, 2018 10:09 am
Posted by Alan on Thu Aug 23, 2018 10:09 am
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charlie caroli wrote:
Again Gunner, you are correct, scrum halves shouldn't have to tackle, Lee Briers and Long didn't, Ryan always goes to centre when the opposing side have the ball.Also the kids love him, he was always last off the field at the LSV posing for pics, and was a good ambassador for the Club.As was Riddy,he may not have been fully fit at the start of the season, but he certainly was when Fev arrived at the LSV this season.


Riddy's was the darling of Sky, pre-season, appearing regularly, on the box. I have a hunch that didn't go down too well, with some at the club! Granted, he wasn't always the fittest, but he also played when injured, and was quicker than most, where it counts - I.e. Between the ears!
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Post Thu Aug 23, 2018 11:23 am
Posted by Binosh on Thu Aug 23, 2018 11:23 am
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Riddy was made a scapegoat by Jukes after being thrown in against Cas the first game of last year unfit after having back problems all pre season and not being able to train. He then went and got Huddersfield out of the bottom 8 and was shafted by Jukes. Practically every player in the team asked Jukes to bring Riddy back from Hudds and he wouldn't because he'd lose face.

Gregg McNally was never given a chance based on defence?? he immediately made us more potent in attack when he did get a chance, has any of you seen Gareth Obrien tackle? hes still one of the best fullbacks in the UK game.

Brierley manufactured his own move after having his request for a pay rise knocked back, he was quickly found out of his depth in SL and even now his "mentor" Rowley has dropped him against teams where something is at stake, read into hat what you will.

None of the players liked or even respected Jukes that's where the problem was, I don't know of any other club that sacks all the players instead of the coach??

Look at Huddersfield & St Helens now.
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