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Re: Red card 2
Post Sun Jun 03, 2018 9:40 pm
Posted by Harold Rigby Jnr on Sun Jun 03, 2018 9:40 pm
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Well if he we can’t compete with mind games we are doomed.


I am replying to the post about referee abuse and talking about a referee being placed under undue pressure on the night, due to said comments, A.
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Post Sun Jun 03, 2018 9:59 pm
Posted by atomic on Sun Jun 03, 2018 9:59 pm
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That’s fine but my comments were about referee abuse from junior coaches and players which then sets the example to the players. Referees don’t/can’t use first names because they don’t know them. A lot of young referees are lost to the game because of unpunished club officials and parents.


Most refs would pick the name up in play Reffy. They don’t forget.

I never had a problem with the abuse the ref was getting and he didn’t. A totally focused ref will never be intimated.

That’s the decision in life they take and become qualified to do.

Now if you want a debate on why the game has poor reffing. I’d start
with the video ref as being an ultimate opposite in a way ref gains his/her qualifications.

Too many grey areas still. Get shut of the VR (nevermind streamlining it)which has made a mockery of the sport.

Then you’ll get the refs back. The abuse will be no more on any level.
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Re: Red card 2
Post Sun Jun 03, 2018 10:28 pm
Posted by Canoeman on Sun Jun 03, 2018 10:28 pm
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I think about the kids at the game listening to the abuse come from the adults...very poorly done. It is not the proper way to model or instruct the young, they should be taught and HAVE DISPLAYED proper conduct to authority figures....the adults should know better. Deeds speak.

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Re: Red card 2
Post Sun Jun 03, 2018 10:33 pm
Posted by reffy on Sun Jun 03, 2018 10:33 pm
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Refs pick up names in play and don’t forget?

Let’s think about that, 34 kids in the game and the ref will hear all the names and remember them?
Re: Red card 2
Post Sun Jun 03, 2018 10:40 pm
Posted by reffy on Sun Jun 03, 2018 10:40 pm
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A totally focussed ref will never be intimated (sic).
New young refs taking their first steps are hardly going to be totally focussed are they?
If you think abuse thrown at young refs on a Sunday morning isn’t a problem, you should go and have a look.
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Post Sun Jun 03, 2018 11:33 pm
Posted by atomic on Sun Jun 03, 2018 11:33 pm
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reffy wrote:
Refs pick up names in play and don’t forget?

Let’s think about that, 34 kids in the game and the ref will hear all the names and remember them?


You miss the point. Still stuck in your stubborn way. Disipline starts at junior level. Refs don’t use names. So why should they be used by a ref at senior level?

If it’s right at senior level, it must be ok at junior level.
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Post Sun Jun 03, 2018 11:41 pm
Posted by atomic on Sun Jun 03, 2018 11:41 pm
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Harold Rigby Jnr wrote:
I am replying to the post about referee abuse and talking about a referee being placed under undue pressure on the night, due to said comments, A.


Of course H. Yet nothing done to counteract that. You don’t win a battle after the war is over.

Solution?
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Re: Red card 2
Post Mon Jun 04, 2018 2:45 am
Posted by joanne callotte on Mon Jun 04, 2018 2:45 am
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Canoeman wrote:
Refs using first names is a bad idea, very, very bad idea...should stop it in League ASAP!



Thaler goes even further, nicknames like "Kez"!
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Post Mon Jun 04, 2018 8:54 am
Posted by reffy on Mon Jun 04, 2018 8:54 am
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atomic wrote:
You miss the point. Still stuck in your stubborn way. Disipline starts at junior level. Refs don’t use names. So why should they be used by a ref at senior level?

If it’s right at senior level, it must be ok at junior level.


No, it is you missing the point, the thread wandered onto players names an I joined in

My comments were about referees not coming through the ranks because of the unpunished abuse they get thrown at them by Junior coaches and parents.
That abuse is fact and it is disgusting so if you are happy with it then fine.
Re: Red card 2
Post Mon Jun 04, 2018 9:13 am
Posted by kirkhall on Mon Jun 04, 2018 9:13 am
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Harold Rigby Jnr wrote:
What about coaches, such as McDermott choosing to use a pre match conferences to switch spectators focus on to the referee performance rather than the Quarter Final match itself. His comments certainly placed the referee under extra scrutiny, including from myself more than I would ever be inclined to do so previously. I think it should be outlawed and any head coach referring to how a game should be officiated pre match, during or post match should be landed with a disrepute charge and fined heavily.

Referees and the game deserve better.


Brian McDermott is an odious and ignorant person and this comes across in his interviews! Daryl Powell too can be very ignorant and regards to Kendall, Powell had wasn't too kind about him following the Cas defeat to Saints!
The Cas fans gave Kendall plenty stick too so, its not just Leigh fans! Talking of fans abusing Referees who can forget the girl from Wakefield at the LSV clearly shouting abuse and gesticulating from the perimeter wall in the South Stand ? She' a legend any club would be proud of :lol:
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