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Re: Toronto Wolfpack : Sat Sep 16, 2017 11:35 pm  
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Re: Toronto Wolfpack : Sat Sep 16, 2017 11:39 pm  
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Re: Toronto Wolfpack : Sat Sep 16, 2017 11:54 pm  
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Toulouse,London and presumably Toronto have very successful professional RU teams and, any fledgling RL Team will have a job on to overtake them for popularirty!
Barrow, Dewsbury and Keighley were there at the inception of RL in 1895 and, will very likely be there long after Toronto and Mr Perez has gone! Dont ridicule our Heritage, the likes of Toronto will never play as many games as these famous clubs!


I think I'm correct in saying that Toronto does not have a professional Rugby Union team.
Like them or lump them, Toronto Wolfpack have hit every mark for their first season.
- won league
- gained promotion
- unbeaten at home
- average crowd 7209
- huge numbers on social media
I agree the heartland clubs deserve our respect and more backing from the RFL/Sky for the good of the game in the future but I really hope Eric Perez sticks around and produces on the second Canadian Rugby League team promise. Vancouver strikes me as a great place to try it out Eric :wink:
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Re: Toronto Wolfpack : Sun Sep 17, 2017 12:04 am  
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I think I'm correct in saying that Toronto does not have a professional Rugby Union team.
Like them or lump them, Toronto Wolfpack have hit every mark for their first season.
- won league
- gained promotion
- unbeaten at home
- average crowd 7209
- huge numbers on social media
I agree the heartland clubs deserve our respect and more backing from the RFL/Sky for the good of the game in the future but I really hope Eric Perez sticks around and produces on the second Canadian Rugby League team promise. Vancouver strikes me as a great place to try it out Eric :wink:


VL.What has been done is tremendous for the game. But we have a failing/shortage lack of players in the pool. The RFL will place any new entity in League 1 from now on.

Expansion on this level is fantastic,unfortunately the game doesn't have the youth to cater for it.

Thats were the expansion clubs need to step in.
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Re: Toronto Wolfpack : Sun Sep 17, 2017 12:23 am  
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VL.What has been done is tremendous for the game. But we have a failing/shortage lack of players in the pool. The RFL will place any new entity in League 1 from now on.

Expansion on this level is fantastic,unfortunately the game doesn't have the youth to cater for it.


I don't doubt you Atomic, which is why I say that the RFL/Sky has to step up the backing of heartland clubs. That is where most of the future players will come from. However a huge untapped future pool is available in Canada/North America. Just watch one College Football (American Football) game and see the atheletes on display (and the size of the crowds, 42,000 average). Start showing some of the atheletes of the future that Rugby League is a viable professional venture for them and they may just start to come over at an early age. Long term vision that will need years I know, but very possible if Eric Perez's dreams become reality.
For now I hope that the RFL makes sure that the Toronto venture doesn't take a single penny away from the smaller UK clubs. I hope they succeed but not at the expense of any current U.K. Team.
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Re: Toronto Wolfpack : Sun Sep 17, 2017 1:01 am  
I'm not sure how this venture will pan out. I only know the pool of players is running out. With another expansion club added to that, only adds more pressure to the game.. You can have as many teams as you want,but the player pool is another thing.
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Re: Toronto Wolfpack : Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:16 am  
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Re: Toronto Wolfpack : Sun Sep 17, 2017 10:52 am  
I agree with the comments re: the reducing pool of quality players. Tony Smith has been scathing about the state of the English game and rightly so.

Being honest how many top quality matches have there been throughout this season - the game with 5 drives and a kick is mediocre at best.

Teams such as Wigan adopting bullying tactics and the RFL simply trying to copy Australia in everything including rule changes have led to the boring arm wrestle.

Thankfully Castleford have bucked the trend and played fast attractive rugby - until the rest of Super League including us get back to playing an expansive game - the game will be in decline in the heartlands - never mind expanding in North America
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Re: Toronto Wolfpack : Sun Sep 17, 2017 1:10 pm  
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I'm not sure how this venture will pan out. I only know the pool of players is running out. With another expansion club added to that, only adds more pressure to the game.. You can have as many teams as you want,but the player pool is another thing.


Look no further than the management of Super League who invest nothing of the Sky money in grass routes rugby and the individual teams within who import players from abroad rather than taking a chance on players from the lower leagues with very few exceptions. Perez on the other hand has introduced the game to the youth of Canada and seems to be willing to invest his money in the long term development players in that country.
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Re: Toronto Wolfpack : Sun Sep 17, 2017 10:52 pm  
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Look no further than the management of Super League who invest nothing of the Sky money in grass routes rugby and the individual teams within who import players from abroad rather than taking a chance on players from the lower leagues with very few exceptions. Perez on the other hand has introduced the game to the youth of Canada and seems to be willing to invest his money in the long term development players in that country.


Well he hasn't done that. Toronto are a completely seperate entity to Canada RL. Thats where the youth is along with the ladies RL which has been established some 7 years. Again the investment is a consortium,not Perez on his own.

But I agree with your point about Sky,although to put bums on seats requires household names,and a SL club can't survive on chance.
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