Re: How you doin'? : Tue Apr 26, 2016 7:19 pm  

Lowton_Sparrow wrote:

Interesting to see. Would be good to label each year, can consider how performances relate fans' optimism of year season.

I agree, but theres too many as it is for it to make much sense. At least for something static like this. I've got something planned for the site in general where you should be able to put your mouse over the one that interests you and it'll highlight the one you want to look at, tell you what year it is. You should also be able to filter by club, season, etc. If you want to compare one year with another that should help.

(Or if you have specific requests it won't take much effort now to knock something out for you).

Alan wrote:

Thanks Nozzy and vbfg!

You're a gent, mate. My pleasure.

Re: How you doin'? : Tue Apr 26, 2016 8:58 pm  

old tony wrote:

I really couldn't give a toss to much time on your hands you mate get a job or a dog

What a strange attitude to take

I find the lack of stats in the Championship infuriating.

I would love to see stats like SL has for most meters made, top tacklers, tackle busts etc. For example I would say Dayne Weston this season has been the best prop in the Championship. If we were in SL I could look at any number of different statistics to back this up or prove it wrong. In the Championship you have nothing like that at all which is a real shame IMO.

In the Championship as far as stats go you basically get tries scored and goals kicked and that is about it.

Anybody making an effort to provide any sort of extra info for RL outside SL gets a from me!

Re: How you doin'? : Wed Apr 27, 2016 6:19 am  

I'm with you, Nozzy. The extra stats. that Dave Parkinson provided in the programme (e.g. 'try assists'; the ten minute time slots when we scored, and conceded tries; penalty counts) always fascinated me.

However, sometimes stats. can be misleading. In our SL season, Marc Leafa was deemed to be one of the top five 'offloaders' in the competition. What wasn't factored in, was that about 50% of his offloads went to ground, or to our opponents!

Re: How you doin'? : Wed Apr 27, 2016 7:17 am  

That's the key point, Alan. The same is true for metres and tackles and all the others too.

One thing to always bear in mind with the SL stats is that they're published in support of a fantasy league game and not our general understanding.

Context is absolutely king here.

Particularly in good teams, and even more so when there are poor teams in the same league, backs very often make more metres than forwards do. Sometimes more than the whole pack combined. But is it ever true that metres made by backs are more important than those made by forwards? That'd be hard to argue.

Metres on the fourth tackle during the third consecutive set under your own sticks when you're one score behind might be the most valuable in the game. And there may only be 8 or so of them, not even over the advantage line. But if they're the turning of the tide and help you swing the balance of field position across the next few sets in the other direction it could well be the play of the game.

Those of us who are experienced fans can see this when it happens. It would be nice to be able to find moments like this and share them with a wider audience.

The SL numbers are pretty much meaningless too. If you steal them all (ahem) then you can see general trends. In game though, field position, what happened before, what happened after are just as important as the raw fact itself.

Sport, as I've said a few times lately, is narrative. It's story telling, but with an unreliable narrator. I just want to help share different perspectives to help the real story reveal itself.

Re: How you doin'? : Wed Apr 27, 2016 7:26 am  

For the record, my fantasy teams are *always* terrible.

Re: How you doin'? : Wed Apr 27, 2016 10:14 am  

Some people really aren't happy on here unless they are moaning, one of the reasons I and other people I know hardly ever come on here - won't be long before it's hijacked into a who owes who a pint thread.

Thanks for doing this, despite the other comments it is interesting to see. It would be interesting if we could see which line refers to which season

Re: How you doin'? : Wed Apr 27, 2016 10:43 am  

old tony wrote:

If I wanted a maths lesson I would go to school , come on who really has the time to sit down a do poo like that.

You probably have the time but obviously not the interest and more probably not the ability, it begs the question why didn't you ignore the thread.

Re: How you doin'? : Wed Apr 27, 2016 12:38 pm  

I’d think the top two will be the last two seasons, the third one down the year we came 2nd or was it 3rd to Fev, the next to bottom will be the year but for Gateshead we would have been relegated, the bottom one will be our SL year, others need a bit more of a look at, but you could probably guestimate the year by using our finishing league position relative to the end of the chart.

Re: How you doin'? : Wed Apr 27, 2016 1:39 pm  

I feel an animation coming on.

Re: How you doin'? : Wed Apr 27, 2016 1:40 pm  

Shall I do it?