Re: Will Jukes remain coach ?? : Wed Feb 10, 2016 8:10 pm  

Lowton_Sparrow wrote:

Every coach of every team in every sport is under pressure but I don't think Jukes will be under undue pressure just yet. You can't take away from Batley & how well they played, yes we should have done better but that's down to the players not the coach. Half backs did go missing, without victimising or blaming anyone for anything I think in some of the Super 8s games, the friendly against Warrington & the Batley game when the going gets tough Ryan can sometimes go missing; we have 3 excellent half backs competing for 2 positions, don't play them out of position let them compete for the 2 available. For me at the moment it's Ridy & Rangi that get the spots.

I don't think Ryan EVER goes missing. In some games he tries a little too hard and becomes less effective.Sunday was one such game.

What would I do on Sunday, I really don't know as Ryan, Riddy and Chase for me did not stand out as much as they can and probably should

Re: Will Jukes remain coach ?? : Wed Feb 10, 2016 8:23 pm  

leyther forever wrote:

I don't think Ryan EVER goes missing. In some games he tries a little too hard and becomes less effective.Sunday was one such game.

What would I do on Sunday, I really don't know as Ryan, Riddy and Chase for me did not stand out as much as they can and probably should

LF it's probably obvious I like Ryan and have a lot of time for him, last season
n his role in the team seemed to involve linking the forwards with the backs, but I think Rangi will, do that this season, allowing Ryan to feed off Rangis passes and breaks,I still think Ryan is worth maybe 30 tries or more this season and therefore shouldn't be dropped,where does Riddy fit in?For me at Centre.

Re: Will Jukes remain coach ?? : Wed Feb 10, 2016 8:30 pm  

charlie caroli wrote:

LF it's probably obvious I like Ryan and have a lot of time for him, last season
n his role in the team seemed to involve linking the forwards with the backs, but I think Rangi will, do that this season, allowing Ryan to feed off Rangis passes and breaks,I still think Ryan is worth maybe 30 tries or more this season and therefore shouldn't be dropped,where does Riddy fit in?For me at Centre.

The point of having 3 halves is the ability to rotate them so they aren't knackered come the middle 8's like last season. No need to play them all every week

Re: Will Jukes remain coach ?? : Wed Feb 10, 2016 11:41 pm  

Iggy79 wrote:

The point of having 3 halves is the ability to rotate them so they aren't knackered come the middle 8's like last season. No need to play them all every week

And what happens if one ends up injured,your back to two again.How many players needed ops last season! 8 was it? So whats wrong with moving Riddy to Centre to give them a rest.

Re: Will Jukes remain coach ?? : Wed Feb 10, 2016 11:50 pm  

Rangi and Ryan for me for what its worth.

Re: Will Jukes remain coach ?? : Thu Feb 11, 2016 4:47 am  

DemonUK wrote:

Rangi and Ryan for me for what its worth.

One of them as sub each week ,if the on pitch halves are not going well we can switch them around

Re: Will Jukes remain coach ?? : Thu Feb 11, 2016 7:21 am  

atomic wrote:

And what happens if one ends up injured,your back to two again.How many players needed ops last season! 8 was it? So whats wrong with moving Riddy to Centre to give them a rest.

To give who a rest? None of the halves are getting a rest if all 3 are playing. When pals and Tonga are back they should be rotated with Armstrong and worthington

Re: Will Jukes remain coach ?? : Thu Feb 11, 2016 7:32 am  

Iggy79 wrote:

To give who a rest? None of the halves are getting a rest if all 3 are playing. When pals and Tonga are back they should be rotated with Armstrong and worthington

Im from the old School ,you never heard of rotation in the owd days, rotation was for spuds and carrots,and turnips,these guys train all week they are fit and strong,you always play your strongest 17 unless someone is injured ,when we went on our record breaking run of victories there was no rotation.Last season when we had a nightmare in the 8's it wasn't down to lack of rotation, but we were outplayed.If a player plays well he gets a shirt,if he doesn't he's dropped.Charlie knows.I used to play every week ,sometimes 2 or 3 times a week, without feeling tired.Poker can be a very hard game at times.

Re: Will Jukes remain coach ?? : Thu Feb 11, 2016 7:37 am  

charlie caroli wrote:

Im from the old School ,you never heard of rotation in the owd days, rotation was for spuds and carrots,and turnips,these guys train all week they are fit and strong,you always play your strongest 17 unless someone is injured ,when we went on our record breaking run of victories there was no rotation.Last season when we had a nightmare in the 8's it wasn't down to lack of rotation, but we were outplayed.If a player plays well he gets a shirt,if he doesn't he's dropped.Charlie knows.I used to play every week ,sometimes 2 or 3 times a week, without feeling tired.Poker can be a very hard game at times.

It's no coincidence that we needed so many operations at the end of the season Ian. It makes sense to rotate if we have the squad, otherwise the players aren't ready to slot in if 1st choice players get injured. Even more important this season with more reserves.

I draw the line at putting ridy in the centres though!

Re: Will Jukes remain coach ?? : Thu Feb 11, 2016 9:35 am  

Iggy79 wrote:

It's no coincidence that we needed so many operations at the end of the season Ian. It makes sense to rotate if we have the squad, otherwise the players aren't ready to slot in if 1st choice players get injured. Even more important this season with more reserves.

I draw the line at putting ridy in the centres though!

Iggy,we have 3 halves who for me all have different strengths to their game,Rangi is a running ball player who can create gaps in the defensive line,Ryan is a support player who has the speed to finish off chances when they are created,he also has the skills to pass and link the forwards and backs, we're Riddy can create gaps with his deft passes and has a good kicking game.For me they can all play in the same 17,Rangi and Ryan's style would compliment each other,an example is a few years ago my mate from Wigan Andy Greg, played with Shaun Edwards ,Andy style is similar to Rangis and Shaun style is very similar to Ryan's, Shaun fed off Andy passes ,and scored loads of tries, also in the line up was Dean Bell ,a guy with a similar style to Riddy , playing at centre, it worked a treat for Wigan then , maybe worth a try for us now?
We have a class pack of forwards,when Cory Patterson is fit he has a skilled pair of hands, in the Harry Pinner mold,I'm really excited at the potential line up we could field,when the drier grounds arrive we will be frightening.
Batleys ground on Sunday didn't suit our style sloping narrow pitch,and when Rangi dropped that high ball it was nearly Dark .I'm sure we will recover and start to rip teams apart, hopefully starting on Sunday, I'm tipping a Leigh win by at least 40 points maybe more.