Re: Was Ryan Brierley really offside...? : Mon Aug 24, 2015 9:29 pm  

Couldn't agree more Starbug.

The law is exactly as quoted by Reffy (have managed to find it since) - in which case every defending scrum half at every scrum at every RL match in the entire world is always offside!!

Re: Was Ryan Brierley really offside...? : Mon Aug 24, 2015 10:10 pm  

A grey area from when there was contested scrums. A case of old rules still being in place, after new ones have been added.I can't remember seeing a scrum half penalised for making a tackle at the scrum,but as soon as they end up with ball in hand the whistle usually blows.

Re: Was Ryan Brierley really offside...? : Mon Aug 24, 2015 10:17 pm  

It is becoming more common that the player who is packing down, I use the term loosely, at the back of the scrum is the one who distributes the ball, therefore there is less chance of the defending SH being able to effect a tackle.

Re: Was Ryan Brierley really offside...? : Mon Aug 24, 2015 10:44 pm  

So Reffy,If whoever is at LF and takes the ball,does that not put the defending SH on-side.

Re: Was Ryan Brierley really offside...? : Tue Aug 25, 2015 6:17 am  

They also have to be within touching distance of scrim.
Not stood 2 yards away otherwise again offside.

Re: Was Ryan Brierley really offside...? : Tue Aug 25, 2015 9:07 am  

atomic wrote:

So Reffy,If whoever is at LF and takes the ball,does that not put the defending SH on-side.

Where is the defending SH standing in your scenario?

Re: Was Ryan Brierley really offside...? : Tue Aug 25, 2015 9:48 am  

That's my point.It makes no difference were the defending SH is stood before the put in.Ryan was penalised for offside as he met the ball the same time as release from scrum so has to be offside.

Re: Was Ryan Brierley really offside...? : Tue Aug 25, 2015 10:29 am  

You have lost me.

Re: Was Ryan Brierley really offside...? : Tue Aug 25, 2015 11:35 am  

What I'm saying is Ryan wasn't penalised for were he was standing prior to the put in. He was penalised for taking the ball before the ref called "out"...

Re: Was Ryan Brierley really offside...? : Tue Aug 25, 2015 12:31 pm  

He was offside