Re: Widnes scum : Mon Aug 11, 2014 6:30 pm  

Harold Rigby Jnr wrote:

It does not matter if we insist that all stewards must now run a triathlon every weekend as a minimum requisite, if over 100 drunken louts decide to run amok in unison, rampaging through the stadium the situation would still have occurred.

It has been widely accepted that the stewards were extremely competent in the face of difficult circumstances.

To say they were unfit with most lacking in nous is at best ill thought out and quite frankly disrespectful.

Well said.

Re: Widnes scum : Mon Aug 11, 2014 7:04 pm  

The Watcher wrote:

The Watcher recalls that Hillsborough was not caused by hooligans/football violence but by very poor policing by the West Yorkshire force, subsequently made worse by the lying of officers & the attempt to cover up its failings rather than own up to them.

The inquiry is now complete is it?

Re: Widnes scum : Mon Aug 11, 2014 7:42 pm  

Almost all of the idiots who ran on the pitch did not have Widnes shirts on and it was obvious most of those shown on you tube who did have Widnes shirts on near to the barriers were too drunk to get over the barriers and that was about 3.

Stewards did their best and the prompt arrival of the police officers stopped it from getting worse.

Re: Widnes scum : Mon Aug 11, 2014 8:38 pm  

Where are the coppers actually based during the game - Leigh police station? In both the Daily Mail videos it seems an absolute age before they come out onto the pitch and then they are just sauntering about like they are on a Sunday stroll!!

Re: Widnes scum : Mon Aug 11, 2014 9:04 pm  

The Watcher wrote:

The Watcher recalls that Hillsborough was not caused by hooligans/football violence but by very poor policing by the West Yorkshire force, subsequently made worse by the lying of officers & the attempt to cover up its failings rather than own up to them.

The "watcher" normally is spot on, but this had nothing to do with the "WEST" Yorkshire Police!

Re: Widnes scum : Mon Aug 11, 2014 9:21 pm  

Twitch wrote:

What happened does not surprise me as I have not seen so many drunks milling around town at 12.00 in my life.The Whistling Wren was full at 11.30 and the Thomas Burke was packed early doors. I heard trouble was brewing outside The Brittania which was full of Cas fans who were being goaded by a gang of Widners fans.

No excuse at all but not a surprise as all the elements were there,I do admire the Cas fans who did not raise to the bait and there were some big lads there who I'm sure would of relished getting stuck into the Widnes fans on the pitch.

Side issue but I think the RFL will have been made up at the LSV ,it looked great on TV ,the pitch was as good as any in the country and it was full,and the atmosphere came across really well on the TV.

First of all, I'd like to apologise for the scenes and the behaviour of the scum responsible for the trouble and hope there is little/no damage to the LSV. No excuse or reason for it other than idiots who can't handle beer.

I was in The Brittannia before the game though and saw no trouble, just both sets of fans having a few beers. Yes Widnes fans were singing but it didn't seem like it was aimed at goading Cas fans

Still seething and embarrassed.

Re: Widnes scum : Mon Aug 11, 2014 10:10 pm  

I'd love to know what the stewards could have done better. Their first priority has to be to themselves - that's the same in any similar job - followed by looking after the innocent fans. This they did, there was no confrontation.

Keeping them off the pitch by physical means would be somewhere near the bottom of their list of priorities, and given that they were outnumbered there wasn't much they could have done.

Re: Widnes scum : Mon Aug 11, 2014 11:14 pm  

salfordlad wrote:

Almost all of the idiots who ran on the pitch did not have Widnes shirts on and it was obvious most of those shown on you tube who did have Widnes shirts on near to the barriers were too drunk to get over the barriers and that was about 3.

Stewards did their best and the prompt arrival of the police officers stopped it from getting worse.

What the hell as that got to do with it please explain???
Iv followed Fev since I was 8 years old and haven't had a shirt for a few years

Re: Widnes scum : Mon Aug 11, 2014 11:30 pm  

Well it was in response to an earlier post where someone suggested that most of the pitch invaders had Widnes shirts on.

I can understand why you would not want to wear a Fev shirt.

Most know that the folk who ran on the pitch were drunken idiots irrespective of what they were wearing.

Re: Widnes scum : Tue Aug 12, 2014 5:18 am  

Many had shirts/colours on Frank, the football fan excuse does not wash as I can't see them spending £40 just for one game of RL. Is it also true that Widnes have a suspended fine from last season still hanging over them or is that someone else.