Re: Bottle throwing at half time : Sun Oct 14, 2018 1:41 pm  

CW8 wrote:

You could always sit away from the main supporters in a more neutral area. I was in the NW quadrant and it was fine up there. The south stand would be good and mostly neutral I suppose?

I think there will be drunks everywhere and for the neutrals there's even more reason to treat it just as a day on the lash.

I remember the 2013 final, I was near these two lads one of whom had a Marouane Fellaini wig, and his mate came up with the amusing chant "one fat Fellaini" for him, which had lost its humorous appeal by the 30th time his mate had stood up and turned around with his arms in the air while he chanted it. Fat Fellaini spent the first half of the game celebrating Warrington scores baiting the Wigan fans dotted around (it was a neutral area) with various hand gestures. Second half of the game, when Wigan came back, me and the other Wire fans near me had to put up with Fat Fellaini celebrating every Wigan try by climbing over the empty seats in front of us to stand in front of our row, spanking his own @rse and cawing like a monkey. Being as we were mostly families people just shook their heads resignedly but I can imagine what would have happened if some of the more lubricated less tolerant Wire fans were in the vicinity.

The Challenge Cup final never seems to be as bad, I think its because of the earlier kick off and also the extra effort and cost involved that puts off people who are just up for a reasonably cheap reason to have a mickey up. The best spirit seemed to be on the days when it was on the road at Cardiff and Edinburgh, those were great atmospheres and never had any trouble there.

Is there a reason for the Grand Final being 6pm kick off? It's not like it's after work on a week day or needing people to travel large distances to Manchester from RL heartlands? Greater Manchester Police would never allow City v United or United v Liverpool to kick off late and allow people to have drunk all afternoon.

[Uncle Rico]

Re: Bottle throwing at half time : Sun Oct 14, 2018 2:05 pm  

I think the 6pm kick off is a perfect time for a game tbh as it allows a relaxed morning/afternoon in the build up whether that involves none RL family time or a leisurely lunch liquid or otherwise. As the evening draws in the atmosphere changes it's game on floodlights and fireworks all add to the drama IMO. at 8.00pm it's a decision to head home with your family, not too late for those with youngsters or a long journey or stay out and make a full day of it.

It is disappointing to hear of incidents and yes I did see the beer throwing (totally out of order and a waste of beer), but I also had plenty of craic with fellow Warringtonians, Wigan and Saints fans in Manchester on trams and also after the match at the Dockyard PH near the Lowry when you might have thought that the mood might have 'deteriorated' it was anything but.

Re: Bottle throwing at half time : Sun Oct 14, 2018 2:16 pm  

Uncle Rico wrote:

I think the 6pm kick off is a perfect time for a game tbh as it allows a relaxed morning/afternoon in the build up whether that involves none RL family time or a leisurely lunch liquid or otherwise. As the evening draws in the atmosphere changes it's game on floodlights and fireworks all add to the drama IMO. at 8.00pm it's a decision to head home with your family, not too late for those with youngsters or a long journey or stay out and make a full day of it.

It is disappointing to hear of incidents and yes I did see the beer throwing (totally out of order and a waste of beer), but I also had plenty of craic with fellow Warringtonians, Wigan and Saints fans in Manchester on trams and also after the match at the Dockyard PH near the Lowry when you might have thought that the mood might have 'deteriorated' it was anything but.

Good atmosphere in the Dockyard before the game, in our section you could not take drinks up to the seats

Re: Bottle throwing at half time : Mon Oct 15, 2018 10:31 am  

At least no one has tried to label them football fans this time, or claim that the people throwing bottles from the Wire end are not Warrington fans. Yes, they might be idiots but if they're there to watch us then others will rightly see them as Warrington fans.

Not a good image for the sport on its grand occasion, with an unusually high number of casual fans watching on TV. There will always be a small minority of nobheads in most clubs' support, we seem to have more than most. Thankfully the vast majority of supporters are well-behaved.

[Fantastic Mr Catpiss]

Re: Bottle throwing at half time : Mon Oct 15, 2018 11:03 am  

FireWire wrote:

At least no one has tried to label them football fans this time, or claim that the people throwing bottles from the Wire end are not Warrington fans. Yes, they might be idiots but if they're there to watch us then others will rightly see them as Warrington fans.

Not a good image for the sport on its grand occasion, with an unusually high number of casual fans watching on TV. There will always be a small minority of nobheads in most clubs' support, we seem to have more than most. Thankfully the vast majority of supporters are well-behaved.

It's annoying and bloody embarressing. Some eejit lobbed a pint at the ref at saints when lineham scored his first.

It's only gong to end up affecting the club, they were quite vexed off about it earlier this year as we were putting a world cup hosting bid in.

Re: Bottle throwing at half time : Mon Oct 15, 2018 11:34 am  

The problem with this is always, yes but whose responsibility is it to sort it out?

What enforcement powers do Warrington Wolves have over Old Trafford? Should ticket sales be more tightly regulated - if you go to sit in the Warrington end in a big game, you have to go through a security clearance check process similar to if you wanted to work with kids or secure nuclear material...?

Re: Bottle throwing at half time : Mon Oct 15, 2018 11:38 am  

Idiots for throwing bottles, no excuses for that. But so is Escare for clapping and goading the fans and trying to get a reaction which he got.

Re: Bottle throwing at half time : Mon Oct 15, 2018 11:47 am  

Lord Tony Smith wrote:

Idiots for throwing bottles, no excuses for that. But so is Escare for clapping and goading the fans and trying to get a reaction which he got.

Is this what was going on in the tunnel? Couldnt see clearly from the The Sir Purple Nose stand - just a bit of a melee.

Re: Bottle throwing at half time : Mon Oct 15, 2018 11:58 am  

Wires71 wrote:

Is this what was going on in the tunnel? Couldnt see clearly from the The Sir Purple Nose stand - just a bit of a melee.

Yes, bottles were being thrown and Hill and Goodwin were telling the fans to stop it. All the Wigan players just ignored it and walked off but Escare started clapping and laughing, that's when Goodwin pushed him and that's when their was the scuffle near the tunnel.

Re: Bottle throwing at half time : Mon Oct 15, 2018 11:59 am  

We had in front of us about 15 lads there not wearing colors who were celebrating every Wigan try like they had won the Euromillions. Turning around a sticking the V's up and purposely aiming it at certain Wire fans who they knew they would get a bite off.

This was in the Stretford end as well. I think its absolutely ridiculous to have mixed fans in the stands behind the sticks. It's asking for trouble. Magic weekend gets away with it because its a regular round, there's nothing riding on it mid-season. this is the only Super League game that matters all season, passions run high, especially for the supporters of the teams involved. If Denying tickets behind the sticks to neutrals and the like effects the attendance then it's time to move the game to a smaller venue. when we're successfully selling that venue out year on year look for a slightly bigger venue and do the same again.