FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!

   WWW.RLFANS.COM • View topic - The "let's all laugh at Widnes" thread
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Club Coach4226
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 30 200420 years213th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
18th Apr 24 20:5714th Apr 24 18:20LINK
Milestone Posts
2500
5000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Its in the name
Signature
top flight since 1895

Re: The "let's all laugh at Widnes" thread : Fri Aug 10, 2018 11:00 pm  
I for one hope that Widnes turn it around....the game needs strong clubs and Warrington benefit from a strong local rivalry.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Moderator5757
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 10 201212 years29th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
18th Apr 24 16:1618th Apr 24 16:10LINK
Milestone Posts
5000
10000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Stuck in 1982
Moderator

Re: The "let's all laugh at Widnes" thread : Sat Aug 11, 2018 10:57 am  
Oxford Exile wrote:
I for one hope that Widnes turn it around....the game needs strong clubs and Warrington benefit from a strong local rivalry.


I agree and I can't stand Widnes. The difference here is that if they go down they could quite easily fold they wont galvanise like HKR did recently and that can't be good in anyone's book, can it?

Sure, a 'luminary' like Jonno might not be able to contain his joy if the roles were reversed, but, we need more and better competition not less. I get that say TWP might come in and do that, but, IMO a 12 team premier division is too few and the likes of them, Toulouse, London, Halifax together with Featherstone Leigh and Bradford should be pushing for and being ready for the top not scrapping it out at the bottom of our sports 'barrel'

That said, IF they go down they deserve it but I won't be laughing.....too much
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
International Star7978No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 05 201014 years47th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
15th Apr 24 17:1814th Apr 24 17:48LINK
Milestone Posts
5000
10000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
South Stand.....bored
Signature
Neither glass half full or empty. Just a realist.

Re: The "let's all laugh at Widnes" thread : Sat Aug 11, 2018 11:29 am  
Looking at it selfishly, it does us (the club) no favours.
1500 Wids turn up, spending their £23 turnstile money, that's £35,000 the clubs coffers are down.
We won't get that with Toulouse, Toronto, Cats or London.

Expansion is good in many parts, yet it has many cons, too.

Yes, we'll titter at Jonnothegreat, for his general muppetry, but the fact is, another old name will be teetering on the brink. Bradford and Fax show no sign of making a return soon. Leigh and Salford are on dodgy ground.

Let's make no bones about this. Widnes are where they are, for one reason. THEY'RE POOH. They've won 3 SL games, this season, the last one being before the clocks went forward. It's their own fault. Survival of the fittest, etc. They had 23 opportunities to sort it out, so no sympathy from me.

In my time of watching us, we've had 3 scrapes with relegation. There'd have been street parties in other towns, HAD we gone down. Wigan went down in 80 (and should've in 06 but for them cheating), and we laughed.

Tough.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach13571
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 25 200618 years10th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
18th Apr 24 22:5618th Apr 24 18:15LINK
Milestone Posts
10000
15000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Forum21

Re: The "let's all laugh at Widnes" thread : Sat Aug 11, 2018 11:57 am  
Wire vs Widnes one of the few games with an edge in the season, together with Wire/Wigan and Wire/Saints. Collectively our big ticket games.

I get the expanionist dream, but there has not been one sustained success. Catalans were already a well established side in an RL heartland.

I'm really worried about our game it cannot afford teams like Bradford, Widnes etc to be lost in the doldrums.
RankPostsTeam
International Board Member2233No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 22 200122 years214th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
18th Apr 24 20:3518th Apr 24 08:13LINK
Milestone Posts
1000
2500
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Monitoring outside for the people inside
Signature
Monitoring outside for the people inside

Re: The "let's all laugh at Widnes" thread : Sat Aug 11, 2018 4:04 pm  
I doubt we would get the same compassion from our scouse neighbours if the situation was reversed. Let's just rejoice in them losing sleep and worrying themselves sick before they just escape relegation by the skin of their teeth.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach2136No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 14 200618 yearsN/A
OnlineLast PostLast Page
19th Jan 19 18:5013th Nov 18 12:34LINK
Milestone Posts
1000
2500
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Spain
Signature
Challenge Cup Winners 2009, 2010, 2012

Re: The "let's all laugh at Widnes" thread : Sun Aug 12, 2018 2:44 pm  
lefty goldblatt wrote:
Looking at it selfishly, it does us (the club) no favours.
1500 Wids turn up, spending their £23 turnstile money, that's £35,000 the clubs coffers are down.
We won't get that with Toulouse, Toronto, Cats or London.


I don't want Widnes to get relegated, but why don't their fans turn up for home games?

An average attendance of just over 4,000 is pitiful.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach13571
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 25 200618 years10th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
18th Apr 24 22:5618th Apr 24 18:15LINK
Milestone Posts
10000
15000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Forum21

Re: The "let's all laugh at Widnes" thread : Sun Aug 12, 2018 3:37 pm  
FireWire wrote:
I don't want Widnes to get relegated, but why don't their fans turn up for home games?

An average attendance of just over 4,000 is pitiful.


Widnes population is 60,000.

Warrington's population is 202,000.

Statistically they do better than we do in generating attendance from local population.
RankPostsTeam
International Board Member2233No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 22 200122 years214th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
18th Apr 24 20:3518th Apr 24 08:13LINK
Milestone Posts
1000
2500
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Monitoring outside for the people inside
Signature
Monitoring outside for the people inside

Re: The "let's all laugh at Widnes" thread : Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:39 pm  
Yes but don't forget that many Widnes fans live in Warrington, very few vice versa. On my last trip home from the council house after our derby there were almost as many Widnes cars turning off at Penketh as Wire fans.
RankPostsTeam
Club Captain2827
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 09 20159 years76th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
19th Apr 24 06:4618th Apr 24 12:19LINK
Milestone Posts
2500
5000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: The "let's all laugh at Widnes" thread : Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:13 pm  
lefty goldblatt wrote:
Looking at it selfishly, it does us (the club) no favours.
1500 Wids turn up, spending their £23 turnstile money, that's £35,000 the clubs coffers are down.
We won't get that with Toulouse, Toronto, Cats or London


£35k sounds like a lot of money - and I certainly wouldn’t mind it in my back pocket, but it’s part of a £7m total revenue for the club. Those Widnes speccies in isolation provide just 0.5% of our anual revenue. A drop in the ocean really?

The only way an overseas club like Toronto or Toulouse can add real value to the competition is a domestic paid TV deal that they can add to the pot. IF they can supply that, the Widnes money would pale in to comparison.

Personally I think a two tier competition would seem the right one, with 24 professional clubs spread between them. But that can only be achieved with a French and / or NA TV deal.
Personally I think the likes of Widnes and Salford are displaying all the traits of a second tier club at present.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Club Coach16971
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 15 200816 years73rd
OnlineLast PostLast Page
18th Apr 24 21:0718th Apr 24 15:47LINK
Milestone Posts
15000
20000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Signature
Packs Win Games
Great Packs Make All Backs Look Class
#onceawirealwaysawire

Re: The "let's all laugh at Widnes" thread : Sun Aug 12, 2018 8:34 pm  
I hope Widnes stay up as our neighbours. I don't get involved in unclassy topics(unless it's Saints). That's all I'll say on it.
PreviousNext

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Alffi_7, Barbed Wire, Google Adsense [Bot], Smiffy27, wire-wire, wirecation and 249 guests

REPLY

Subject: 
Message:
   
Please note using apple style emoji's can result in posting failures.
Use the FULL EDITOR to better format content or upload images, be notified of replies etc...

Return to Warrington Wolves


RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
6m
Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE
MadDogg
2054
6m
2024 Southstandercom Prediction Competition Week 8
BRK
24
12m
Shopping list for 2025
ComeOnYouUll
946
13m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
57141
13m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
UllFC
201
13m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
35310
15m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
chapylad
1534
30m
RD 8 Huddersfield Giants H
Loiner at la
42
38m
Squad for Leigh
ratticusfinc
18
38m
SL CHAT THREAD OTHER TEAMS GAMES
Ex-Swarcliff
67
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
Ticketmaster update
NickyKiss
120
1m
Injury update
dboy
11
1m
Transfer Talk / Rumour thread V4
Emagdnim13
8784
2m
2024 Southstandercom Prediction Competition Week 8
BRK
24
2m
Isa
NSW
20
2m
Recruitment rumours and links
Wires71
2347
2m
SL CHAT THREAD OTHER TEAMS GAMES
Ex-Swarcliff
67
2m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
chapylad
1534
2m
Smith out ASAP
DHM
271
2m
St Helens
wirecation
238
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
21 Man Squads - Wire v Leopards v
LeythIg
8
TODAY
Squad for Leigh
ratticusfinc
18
TODAY
FINANCES
Tony Fax
6
TODAY
AI predictions
Rugby Raider
3
TODAY
Sheffield Game
REDWHITEANDB
3
TODAY
Injury update
dboy
11
TODAY
Seagulls
Miserybusine
15
TODAY
Rugby leagie coaches - analysis request
Captain Hook
11
TODAY
Castleford at home
Mark_P1973
31
TODAY
David Armstrong potential signing
LeythIg
10
TODAY
France v England Internationals Confirmed for 29th June 2024
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
France v England International..
813
Warrington Stun St Helens In C..
1590
2024 Challenge Cup Semi-Finals..
1288
Wigan Warriors Demolish Woeful..
1376
Hull KR Eliminate the Cup Hold..
1416
Bradford Bulls Come From Behin..
1903
Bradford Bulls Beat Feathersto..
2361
Giants Thrash FC Again For Top..
2373
Warrington Brush Aside The Rhi..
1841
Wigan Coast to Victory over Le..
2016
Giants Come From Behind For Ea..
2271
Salford Red Devils Defeat Leig..
2779
Catalans Dragons Win See-Saw E..
2213
St Helens Win Derby Game Over ..
2216
Early Season Double for Hull K..
2171
POSTSONLINEREGISTRATIONSRECORD
19.58M 1,674 80,03014,103
LOGIN HERE
or REGISTER for more features!.

When you register you get access to the live match scores, live match chat and you can post in the discussions on the forums.
RLFANS Match Centre
 TODAY
National Rugby League 2024-R7
 FT
Hover 
St.George
30-12
NZ Warriors
11:00
Parramatta
v
Dolphins
Womens Super League 2024-R1
17:30
LeedsW
v
Hudds W
17:30
WiganW
v
BarrowW
Mens Super League XXVIII-R8
20:00
Leeds
v
Huddersfield
20:00
St.Helens
v
Hull FC
20:00
Wigan
v
Castleford
 TOMORROW
Mens Super League XXVIII-R8
15:00
Warrington
v
Leigh
 Sat 27th Apr
Mens Super League XXVIII-R9
15:00
Salford
v
Warrington
 Sun 19th May
Challenge Cup 2024-R8
15:15
Huddersfield
v
Warrington
 Sat 17th Aug 2024
Mens Super League XXVIII-R22
18:00
Warrington
v
Leeds
ALL SCORES PROVIDED BY RLFANS.COM (SETTINGS)
Matches on TV
Fri 19th Apr
SL
20:00
Leeds-Huddersfield
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Hull FC
SL
20:00
Wigan-Castleford
Sat 20th Apr
SL
15:00
Warrington-Leigh
SL
17:30
Catalans-Hull KR
Sun 21st Apr
SL
15:00
LondonB-Salford
Thu 25th Apr
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Huddersfield
Fri 26th Apr
SL
20:00
Castleford-LondonB
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Wigan
SL
20:00
Leigh-Catalans
Sat 27th Apr
SL
15:00
Salford-Warrington
Sun 28th Apr
SL
15:00
Hull FC-Leeds
Sat 18th May
CC2024
13:15
Hull KR-Wigan
WOMCC2024
11:15
St.HelensW-York V
Sun 19th May
CC2024
15:15
Huddersfield-Warrington
WOMCC2024
12:30
WiganW-LeedsW
Sat 29th Jun
MINT2024
17:00
France M-England M
WINT2024
14:30
FRANCE W-ENGLAND W
Sat 17th Aug
SL
18:00
Warrington-Leeds
SL
15:30
Wigan-St.Helens
Fri 19th Apr
NRL
LIVE
St.George30-12NZ Warriors
Thu 18th Apr
NRL 7 Sydney12-18Melbourne
Sun 14th Apr
CC2024 7 Castleford6-60Wigan
CC2024 7 St.Helens8-31Warrington
NRL 6 Wests12-24St.George
NRL 6 Canberra21-20Gold Coast
CH 4 Barrow27-20Dewsbury
CH 4 Doncaster4-46Featherstone
CH 4 Swinton4-22Sheffield
CH 4 Whitehaven12-25Batley
CH 4 Widnes40-14Halifax
CH 4 York6-50Wakefield
L1 4 Oldham46-10Cornwall
L1 4 Midlands26-30Hunslet
L1 4 Keighley22-6Crusaders
L1 4 Rochdale68-4Newcastle
WOMCC2024 4 York V74-0FeatherstoneW
Sat 13th Apr
CC2024 7 Catalans6-34Huddersfield
CC2024 7 Hull KR26-14Leigh
NRL 6 NZ Warriors22-22Manly
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Catalans 7 172 86 86 12
Warrington 7 214 98 116 10
Wigan 6 188 78 110 10
Hull KR 7 182 83 99 10
St.Helens 7 138 58 80 10
Huddersfield 7 176 126 50 8
 
Salford 7 151 154 -3 8
Leeds 7 116 122 -6 8
Leigh 6 116 126 -10 2
Castleford 7 98 228 -130 2
Hull FC 7 86 252 -166 2
LondonB 7 70 296 -226 0
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 4 154 36 118 8
Widnes 4 136 38 98 8
Sheffield 4 114 62 52 8
Bradford 4 84 78 6 6
Featherstone 4 96 68 28 4
Halifax 4 66 89 -23 4
 
Barrow 4 72 101 -29 4
Whitehaven 4 69 105 -36 4
Toulouse 4 68 77 -9 2
Batley 4 59 78 -19 2
Dewsbury 4 60 79 -19 2
Swinton 4 50 82 -32 2
Doncaster 4 66 134 -68 2
York 4 54 121 -67 0
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
6m
Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE
MadDogg
2054
6m
2024 Southstandercom Prediction Competition Week 8
BRK
24
12m
Shopping list for 2025
ComeOnYouUll
946
13m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
57141
13m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
UllFC
201
13m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
35310
15m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
chapylad
1534
30m
RD 8 Huddersfield Giants H
Loiner at la
42
38m
Squad for Leigh
ratticusfinc
18
38m
SL CHAT THREAD OTHER TEAMS GAMES
Ex-Swarcliff
67
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
Ticketmaster update
NickyKiss
120
1m
Injury update
dboy
11
1m
Transfer Talk / Rumour thread V4
Emagdnim13
8784
2m
2024 Southstandercom Prediction Competition Week 8
BRK
24
2m
Isa
NSW
20
2m
Recruitment rumours and links
Wires71
2347
2m
SL CHAT THREAD OTHER TEAMS GAMES
Ex-Swarcliff
67
2m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
chapylad
1534
2m
Smith out ASAP
DHM
271
2m
St Helens
wirecation
238
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
21 Man Squads - Wire v Leopards v
LeythIg
8
TODAY
Squad for Leigh
ratticusfinc
18
TODAY
FINANCES
Tony Fax
6
TODAY
AI predictions
Rugby Raider
3
TODAY
Sheffield Game
REDWHITEANDB
3
TODAY
Injury update
dboy
11
TODAY
Seagulls
Miserybusine
15
TODAY
Rugby leagie coaches - analysis request
Captain Hook
11
TODAY
Castleford at home
Mark_P1973
31
TODAY
David Armstrong potential signing
LeythIg
10
TODAY
France v England Internationals Confirmed for 29th June 2024
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
France v England International..
813
Warrington Stun St Helens In C..
1590
2024 Challenge Cup Semi-Finals..
1288
Wigan Warriors Demolish Woeful..
1376
Hull KR Eliminate the Cup Hold..
1416
Bradford Bulls Come From Behin..
1903
Bradford Bulls Beat Feathersto..
2361
Giants Thrash FC Again For Top..
2373
Warrington Brush Aside The Rhi..
1841
Wigan Coast to Victory over Le..
2016
Giants Come From Behind For Ea..
2271
Salford Red Devils Defeat Leig..
2779
Catalans Dragons Win See-Saw E..
2213
St Helens Win Derby Game Over ..
2216
Early Season Double for Hull K..
2171


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!