Re: Is our pack good enough? : Fri Jul 20, 2018 6:53 am  

morleys_deckchair wrote:

im going to say no, its not good enough.. but its a big improvement on last season.. so progress.

I’d say about the same.

I’m looking forward to seeing Jason Clark next year. He can play across the pack and is a work horse. Sam Burgess described him as one of the best teammates he’s ever had once. Souths fans even set up a petition to keep him.

Also the lad from London will be coming in but I’m guessing he’ll be a filler for when Currie, Murdoch-Massila and Livett are not all available.

I’m more impressed with Cooper this season. Playing under a coach who got the best out of him in his very respectable stint in the NRL has done him good. I’m very impressed with Philbin, there’s a good career player for us there and he’s getting more powerful and has good pace (something we’ve hugely lacked in the forwards for a bit). Filling in well for what we missed when we lost Harrison (very underrated player, as was Grix!)

I’d just feel better with a more powerful tackle buster in the front row as well.

Re: Is our pack good enough? : Fri Jul 20, 2018 10:27 am  

Our pack would be much better if somebody had a little nibble of Chris Hill's wrist before every match. After he was 'bitten' against Hull earlier this season, he was a complete monster for about 20 minutes, changed the game.

Re: Is our pack good enough? : Sun Dec 30, 2018 3:01 pm  

rubber duckie wrote:

Anyways back on topic.
The voices say "yes it is".
Although it might not satisfy one of us.

Were the voices right on this in the end duckie....?

Or was our pack the reason Patton and our halves weren't able to shine and the reason we got beat up in the big games....

[Winslade's Offload]

Re: Is our pack good enough? : Sun Dec 30, 2018 4:16 pm  

Dom Crosby, George King and Sitaleki were not good enough as the interchange options and we had to rely on short bursts of Westwood and Philbin to give us a bit of momentum. So no, we were not strong enough in the pack and lucked out with few injuries.

Re: Is our pack good enough? : Sun Dec 30, 2018 4:58 pm  

Winslade's Offload wrote:

Dom Crosby, George King and Sitaleki were not good enough as the interchange options and we had to rely on short bursts of Westwood and Philbin to give us a bit of momentum. So no, we were not strong enough in the pack and lucked out with few injuries.

I think George Kings finest hour was over the last 2 months of the season and arguably the best prop.
Had he had shown that form before we went looking for a replacement he would very likely still be here.

Re: Is our pack good enough? : Sun Dec 30, 2018 5:07 pm  

Keithslyblind drunk wrote:

I agree with lefty goldblatt
Talks a lot of sense
Don't be surprised how soon
Hughes dishes up the same rubbish
He won't be turning into a world beater anytime soon

While we're in the dig up the past posts let's have a look at some....

Re: Is our pack good enough? : Sun Dec 30, 2018 5:09 pm  

The Railwayman wrote:

Hughes is not centre but sacrificed his own game last year for the good for the team so it would seem. I am prepared to give him a clean slate and see how he goes in his preferred / better position is what is hopefully a better team effort this season coming.

Regarding 'grunt' BMM showed some yesterday as well as some real class with a couple of off loads one of which led tot a try. A great buy.
Coops put in a good shift but I would like to see him eat a couple of Welsh Oggies and beef up a touch

One of the pleasing aspects of yesterdays game was the defence. Yes we were not necessarily playing against the most dynamic attack we will see in 2018 but to concede only one try and a fortuitous one at that was a good effort. In attack we were missing possibly our two most creative players in Roberts and Patton so improvements to come there

Lot more optimistic for the season that at the same stage last year after the dreadful Huddersfield performance.

A post of reason....

Re: Is our pack good enough? : Sun Dec 30, 2018 5:10 pm  

lefty goldblatt wrote:

Season hasn't started yet, and the epithet scapegoat has been used.

Hughes is not, repeat NOT, a scapegoat.
Hughes is simply not good enough, for where we want to be. The same goes for that plant pot on the wing, Russell. I'm fully aware we can't have a team full of stars, but Hughes' career plateaued after a decent start in Wire colours, since that plateau, it's regressed. Last season, he was a walking accident. Not good enough. He's at Widnes' level, now.
I'd rather promote a younger lad.
Harsh, maybe. But true.

We've already got a "near as damn it passenger" in Westwood for the upcoming season. We can't afford another.

Westwood is now at the level where Yaya Toure is at City. A legend for what he's done, but it's time to stop embarrassing yourself, and tarnishing your reputation.

Add to this, Crosby's form/state of mind, and Cooper's horrific 2017 season, I've a few worries for our pack, this season. I really hope I'm proved wrong.

Oh dear....

Re: Is our pack good enough? : Sun Dec 30, 2018 5:13 pm  

Oxford Exile wrote:

its not doom and gloom..we will be better than last year (not too difficult)..BUT we have to have realistic levels of expectation....otherwise the new coach and the team will be put under too much pressure based on unrealistic expectations.

I expect a top 6-8 finish and a decent cup run....more than that is a bonus IMO....we are building again....heading in the right direction....but I really don't expect us to make the top 4 or a final....because we are still short of enough top class players to achieve that IMO. Hope i am wrong.

Ouch....
Don't give me any of your tips.

Re: Is our pack good enough? : Sun Dec 30, 2018 5:15 pm  

Wires71 wrote:

Rubber, there is a difference between being happy with mid table and expecting it. There was a lot wrong at the Wire and it had been brewing for a while. It will take time to fix that due to hysteresis.

Good grief..
Miles off!