Re: Today's game v Halifax. : Sat Aug 19, 2017 11:39 pm  

silver2 wrote:

What is it with some people? I give my opinion of the game and all I receive back are personal insults. This is getting like Trumps America.

You want to read the opening of your own comment if your going to whine about insult, had you just said you thought we played ok then fair enough, but you attacked other peoples comments by calling us doom and gloom merchants, i would call it tit for tat.

Re: Today's game v Halifax. : Sun Aug 20, 2017 7:16 am  

Watched it back this morning, there are too many average (or worse) players in our team. Russell with the continued errors, Lineham doesn't look like he wants to return kicks, trying to pass to Ratchford on a number of occasions (not to mention the simple Miss for the second try). Hughes' errors and penalties are poor, doesn't offer enough to warrant the basic errors. King is slow and ineffective. Savelio is too busy walking around flexing his muscles, he may shrug one or two tackles off, but there's no benefit to the team at all. The half backs aren't dangerous individually, or cohesive together.

Huge off-season coming up, need to focus on quality rather than quantity, and use the youngsters more for cover.

Re: Today's game v Halifax. : Sun Aug 20, 2017 8:08 am  

Irish Wire wrote:

Two points.

End of.

The problem is, it isn't the end of anything. It's just the continuation of a problem which has been brewing for a number of years now.

If the crowd (a stadium low for us in Super League) didn't give the dissatisfaction away, the response to that game should, but still those at the top will keep their heads in the sand. The complacency and arrogance is outstanding, it feels as though people both on the terraces and in the club feel we have a god-given right to be in Super League and win these games.

Full credit to Fax though, they weren't expecting to reach this stage and getting the top-four status was the payout they needed, so these seven games are essentially a bit of a run out. They made us look like the part timers and that just shouldn't happen in modern sport.

Re: Today's game v Halifax. : Sun Aug 20, 2017 8:51 am  

Smith needs to take a look at himself and his comments, your team were very poor today, fitness, as expected told in the end but as a whole you created very little. We struggled to control Hiku but apart from him nobody else did much, Hill got through a lot of work as usual but wholesale changes are needed otherwise you will be in the same boat again next season.

Re: Today's game v Halifax. : Sun Aug 20, 2017 9:03 am  

Norman Bates wrote:

Smith needs to take a look at himself and his comments, your team were very poor today, fitness, as expected told in the end but as a whole you created very little. We struggled to control Hiku but apart from him nobody else did much, Hill got through a lot of work as usual but wholesale changes are needed otherwise you will be in the same boat again next season.

As Wire fans we already know all this but thanks

Re: Today's game v Halifax. : Sun Aug 20, 2017 9:37 am  

The Leigh away smashing of Catalans put things back into perspective.
We're not so great again as thought in many areas.
Every thing is relative....!
We are a poor team, good enough to hold out and finish clear of the 4th spot downwards.

The whole squad needs sorting with exceptions being to Hiku, Ratchford and Clark, I'd have the whole lot of them under caution of transfer...if they sell they can go. It's what Murphy would have done. He wouldn't have stood for mediocrity.
Too many times over and over individuals display poor form then a single odd great game, this isn't good enough. Consistency is shocking. Just the 3 prior named display effort everytime they play.

Re: Today's game v Halifax. : Sun Aug 20, 2017 9:44 am  

Also, Simon Grix looked a bit unfit but was one of the classiest players in the game

Re: Today's game v Halifax. : Sun Aug 20, 2017 9:48 am  

Well Simon Grix never had a bad game with us. He gave 100% every time.

All you can ask is players to give 100%. He doesn't have to be the most skillful player in the world to be the best. The best earn it.

Re: Today's game v Halifax. : Sun Aug 20, 2017 12:03 pm  

rubber duckie wrote:

The Leigh away smashing of Catalans put things back into perspective.
We're not so great again as thought in many areas.
Every thing is relative....!
We are a poor team, good enough to hold out and finish clear of the 4th spot downwards.

The whole squad needs sorting with exceptions being to Hiku, Ratchford and Clark, I'd have the whole lot of them under caution of transfer...if they sell they can go. It's what Murphy would have done. He wouldn't have stood for mediocrity.
Too many times over and over individuals display poor form then a single odd great game, this isn't good enough. Consistency is shocking. Just the 3 prior named display effort everytime they play.

Atkins - Currie?....Are you having a laugh

[Winslade's Offload]

Re: Today's game v Halifax. : Sun Aug 20, 2017 12:15 pm  

Although there was very poor individual play on show ( Lineham's non existent defence, Brown's passing the ball down the line without any thought to take the line on), the main issue was that the team were playing at a low tempo. I have not seen TS's comments, but if it's true that he said the team were 'flat', then that is very much down to him. I am not a fan of the Wigan coach, but he certainly doesn't stand for anybody dropping off the pace. The team need to be motivated for every game that they play - perhaps not by putting the fear of god into them, but motivated nevertheless, and that has to come from the coach. The game looked very much like the one's we played mid season but without all the hundreds of mistakes.

So a recurring theme this season looks to be the fact that TS simply can not get the team motivated. He didn't need to do it during the Monas / Morley era because we had so many older experienced players that they simply got on with the job and dragged the younger players with them. We do have some inadequate players in the squad, but perhaps TS's inability to get the players up for each and every one of our games, is our real Achilles heel ?