Re: Tony Smith : Mon Sep 26, 2016 11:45 am  

Captain Hook wrote:

Just goes to show. Did you see the Catalans match? Hardly average, and not sure what you saw against Wigan to call him "dire".

I should have said his form at full back is average, as every time he's played centre for us he's arguably been the best player on the pitch and he's played very well (Catalans and Hull away) in the halves this season. I also think he played very well early doors when he was a utility half back/hooker coming off the bench.

The last position i see in him is FB, i just don't rate him there. Recent games v Saints and Wigan i thought he had very poor games at FB.

Re: Tony Smith : Mon Sep 26, 2016 11:46 am  

Psychedelic Casual wrote:

Sorry Wazza, i was on about Ratchford

I stand corrected

Re: Tony Smith : Mon Sep 26, 2016 12:10 pm  

rubber duckie wrote:

I prefer to see a winger back himself up the touchline against coming inside any day.

Three points on this:

1) You would be the first to knife any winger who decided to 'back himself up the touchline' on, say, his own twenty and got bundled into touch and conceded possession;
2) The best Warrington winger of the Super League era (Chris Hicks) invariably stepped inside off his right foot near the line;
3) Our goalkicking this season has given us every reason to try to score further infield. Not an issue when we had Hodgson but missed kicks have cost us a number of games.

Re: Tony Smith : Mon Sep 26, 2016 12:44 pm  

just_browny wrote:

Three points on this:

1) You would be the first to knife any winger who decided to 'back himself up the touchline' on, say, his own twenty and got bundled into touch and conceded possession;
2) The best Warrington winger of the Super League era (Chris Hicks) invariably stepped inside off his right foot near the line;
3) Our goalkicking this season has given us every reason to try to score further infield. Not an issue when we had Hodgson but missed kicks have cost us a number of games.

I am no murderer.
And neither will I ever critique a winger who backs himself.
However I will be displeased of a player who runs sidewards towards the touchline(crabbing) and then gets bundled over. We've seen Evans get caught out this way, but still I've not been on here to rip him over it.
By the way, running forwards and side stepping off either foot is not the same as running inside.
The goal kicking reason.... I'm shaking my head, I'm not even going to respond to that.

Re: Tony Smith : Mon Sep 26, 2016 12:46 pm  

moving on... wrote:

Which Penny do you watch?

....and this!

Re: Tony Smith : Mon Sep 26, 2016 2:23 pm  

Strange...We have kicked more goals than any other team.

Re: Tony Smith : Mon Sep 26, 2016 2:42 pm  

We've got 100 from 133 goal attempts, or 75%, whilst Hull got 96 from 115, 83%, with Wigan 72 from 98, 73% and Saints 89 from 114, 78%.

Re: Tony Smith : Tue Sep 27, 2016 10:28 am  

just_browny wrote:

Three points on this:

1) You would be the first to knife any winger who decided to 'back himself up the touchline' on, say, his own twenty and got bundled into touch and conceded possession;
2) The best Warrington winger of the Super League era (Chris Hicks) invariably stepped inside off his right foot near the line;
3) Our goalkicking this season has given us every reason to try to score further infield. Not an issue when we had Hodgson but missed kicks have cost us a number of games.

There is sharply stepping inside to avoid getting bundled in touch which a lot of wingers do. Then there is catching the ball, stopping, running sideways 15 yards, and back another 5 before being smashed.

There was nothing intelligent or beneficial to Penny running around like a headless chicken half the time against Hull.

Re: Tony Smith : Tue Sep 27, 2016 6:57 pm  

Builth Wells Wire wrote:

Strange...We have kicked more goals than any other team.

We have score more tries than anyone else. That masks the problem.