Re: 17 for Wembley - name it!! : Tue Aug 23, 2016 6:38 pm  

Deus Dat Incrementum wrote:

The elements around the kicking game are vital. We need to put pressure on their kickers to make sure the ball stays in play. I would guess that the number of touch finding kicks that Hull put in is higher than most teams. Pressure on the kicker may result in the odd charge down going astray but puts doubt in the kickers mind. The markers need to be wary of Houghton kicking out of DH also. Ratchford needs to show more urgency than he ever has in making sure the ball does not go into touch. We can't give their forwards a 30 second break at the end of every set. I would also be happy for us to kick early and turn their big backs (and forwards round)
In a way I would be happier to concede 2-3 yards per drive but dominate the tackle so the line is set better for pressure on the kicker.
I may be doing Hull a bit of a disservice here but Sneyd reminds me of Deacon at Bradford. Does a good job but not the most naturally gifted ballplayer ever. They are a good team though but we just have to wear them out. No penalties and a low error count and our dummy half running will start to work.

I don't see Hull's pack wilting on the day. We look extremely fit and well conditioned. if anything, I think a hot day will suit us well. We'll have 4 forwards on the bench as Houghton will do the 80 so plenty of rotation to keep them fresh. I think tackling our forwards for 80 minutes on a hot day will be a challenge

Re: 17 for Wembley - name it!! : Tue Aug 23, 2016 9:01 pm  

Jake the Peg wrote:

I don't see Hull's pack wilting on the day. We look extremely fit and well conditioned. if anything, I think a hot day will suit us well. We'll have 4 forwards on the bench as Houghton will do the 80 so plenty of rotation to keep them fresh. I think tackling our forwards for 80 minutes on a hot day will be a challenge

Well you've convinced me, and I assume Tony Smith so we're not going to bother sending a team out, the trophy is yours.

Re: 17 for Wembley - name it!! : Tue Aug 23, 2016 9:06 pm  

Captain Hook wrote:

Well you've convinced me, and I assume Tony Smith so we're not going to bother sending a team out, the trophy is yours.

Probably the only way we'll ever win at wembley

Re: 17 for Wembley - name it!! : Tue Aug 23, 2016 10:55 pm  

silver2 wrote:

I'd be wary of playing Dwyer against the Hull pack.During the game down here he looked a real lightweight when tackling and was tossed around like a rag doll when attacking.

Whaaaat?
Don't be silly now. Dwyer had took a few games by the scruff and won't it for us.

Re: 17 for Wembley - name it!! : Wed Aug 24, 2016 5:50 am  

Despite Dwyer's diminutive stature, he generally does ok. Granted, he won't be an aggressive defender against a pack your size, but he'll cling on to something and give it his all. It's his attack that could help us, the tempo he brings is a massive boost, and he finds a way to get between defenders.

I do expect him to play, but it may be for shorter periods. Clark is the main man, whenever we need something special, he is in the frame

Re: 17 for Wembley - name it!! : Wed Aug 24, 2016 7:12 am  

Barbed Wire wrote:

Clark is the main man, whenever we need something special, he is in the frame

Daryl is class absolute class. He is my choice for Man of Steel

Re: 17 for Wembley - name it!! : Wed Aug 24, 2016 7:30 am  

Jake the Peg wrote:

I don't see Hull's pack wilting on the day. We look extremely fit and well conditioned. if anything, I think a hot day will suit us well. We'll have 4 forwards on the bench as Houghton will do the 80 so plenty of rotation to keep them fresh. I think tackling our forwards for 80 minutes on a hot day will be a challenge

Your pack hasn't been tested for the last two weeks. I'd be worried about that if I was a Hull supporter. And do you think tackling our forwards wont be a challenge? It'll be a tough test but the two game you've played us in so far have each been won by 2 points. you've hardly blown us off the park. fact of the matter is all the pressure is on Hull going into this game, the question is do they have the stones to win it when it counts?

Re: 17 for Wembley - name it!! : Wed Aug 24, 2016 7:40 am  

Also, don't be too surprised if Dodds gets a place if Westerman isn't fit. Or even if he is fit to be honest.

You heard it here first.

Re: 17 for Wembley - name it!! : Wed Aug 24, 2016 7:50 am  

moving on... wrote:

Your pack hasn't been tested for the last two weeks. I'd be worried about that if I was a Hull supporter. And do you think tackling our forwards wont be a challenge? It'll be a tough test but the two game you've played us in so far have each been won by 2 points. you've hardly blown us off the park. fact of the matter is all the pressure is on Hull going into this game, the question is do they have the stones to win it when it counts?

I'm not worried at all. Although the games looked relatively easy in reality they were games against 2 of the top 8 so still a more than decent work out but we dominated both so they were good indicators for me. I've not suggested we'll blow you off the park but was responding to someone who claims you'll tire our forwards out on the day which I don't see happening. As for pressure, I'm sure we'll cope although as the bookie's favourites I think there's a fair amount on your team too.

I expect us to lose as it's at wembley but I don;t think there's much between the sides and it will likely only be won by less than 2 scores on the day IMO

Re: 17 for Wembley - name it!! : Wed Aug 24, 2016 8:26 am  

moving on... wrote:

Also, don't be too surprised if Dodds gets a place if Westerman isn't fit. Or even if he is fit to be honest.

You heard it here first.

Well actually we haven't heard anything, so if you know something more than we do please share that.