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Re: Ryan Bailey : Wed Nov 25, 2015 10:54 pm  
Like it or not he REPEATEDLY found himself in those grand final teams. He was a starting prop for the best team in super league over the last decade and in leeds' most successful team EVER. Whatever you think of the man he clearly isn't/wasn't rubbish and did the job he was tasked to do with great effect....all this whilst having his own off field issues. At the very least he's also a bloody character in a game quickly becoming devoid of them.
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Re: Ryan Bailey : Wed Nov 25, 2015 11:41 pm  
Off the top of my head I can name a dozen players who have done far worse things on the field than Bailey, and a dozen more who've done far worse than he has supposedly done off it. A couple of them are former Wire players. The hysteria around the guy is so OTT its not true.
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Re: Ryan Bailey : Thu Nov 26, 2015 2:12 am  
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Crediting Ryan Bailey with Leeds' Super League wins is like crediting me with our Challenge Cup wins.


No one at Leeds truly credits him with those GF wins, it's just something to get under the skin of opposition fans......and clearly has worked. Truth is he was a sub prop, a role you'd never associate with being the key man to a Final success.....just someone who did a role within those wins, and he did on a number of occasions. One that Sinfield, Peacock and JJB have praised him for and one that Smith, McClennen and McDermott have picked him for, but I suppose those on RLFans know better than those 6 title winning men.
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Re: Ryan Bailey : Thu Nov 26, 2015 7:27 am  
I just can't help thinking in a few months he'll be gone and we'll be looking back and thinking "Did we really have a 22 page thread on him"?
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Re: Ryan Bailey : Thu Nov 26, 2015 9:31 am  
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I just can't help thinking in a few months he'll be gone and we'll be looking back and thinking "Did we really have a 22 page thread on him"?


You may be right. But if he is truly the crappy liability some on here make him out to be, yet ends up playing regularly, you will need to think seriously about finding another scapegoat as it'll mean there are even more serious failings in your other squad members.
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Re: Ryan Bailey : Thu Nov 26, 2015 11:09 am  
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You may be right. But if he is truly the crappy liability some on here make him out to be, yet ends up playing regularly, you will need to think seriously about finding another scapegoat as it'll mean there are even more serious failings in your other squad members.

You may have a very good point Clearwing as Bailey sees this as a fresh start and is intent on making a go of it, as a bench prop he will slot in well with Smith having a roll for him but I can't see him outshining the rest of the pack.

Bailey is not the only player to niggle it goes on, this season I've seen Hill and Atkins to name two pointing and gesturing to opponents after being niggled who at the time were away from the area it goes on, I've said on another post that under the circumstances I can live with it, he had a hard time wining over some Leeds fans the same will apply at the HJ only top performances will win the doubters over, I'm sure he knows that.
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Re: Ryan Bailey : Thu Nov 26, 2015 11:50 am  
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I can see your point Duffman although the props you mention would not be cheap and were signed up a while ago, probably around the time we were trying to sign Lillyman who would have been a better prospect for me, what went wrong I don't know.



Lillyman fell through because of his wage demands. He thought he was good enough to be our marquee player.
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Re: Ryan Bailey : Thu Nov 26, 2015 12:50 pm  
As a counter to all the "like it or not he won loads of medals with Leeds" shouts, then:

Like it or not he's been in a bit of a RL wasteland since leaving Leeds too.....
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Re: Ryan Bailey : Thu Nov 26, 2015 1:08 pm  
When Cas signed him most just shrugged their shoulders & said meh. He lasted as long as I expected him to. His reputation, good & bad is grossly exaggerated., the hysteria on here is comical. I'm not sure he has the brain & maturity to dedicate himself enough to do the travelling, otherwise a steady signing.
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Re: Ryan Bailey : Thu Nov 26, 2015 1:28 pm  
two years ago he turned down an offer from the NRL to sign for Leeds again for two more years and a testmonial
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