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Sam Burgess... : Thu Aug 27, 2015 1:26 pm  
Apparently Will Carling is questioning the judgement of Stuart Lancaster if he offers Sam a world cup place. Carling reckons Sam is not yet up to the job of being an England centre. I wonder if Sam's omission would hasten his return to league ?
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Re: Sam Burgess... : Thu Aug 27, 2015 1:36 pm  
He was always going to be in the squad.
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Re: Sam Burgess... : Thu Aug 27, 2015 1:59 pm  
I'm no expert on the sport but I think Carling is right.

He is less than a bit part player for England and only marginally more important for his club. ...

In my ill informed view Burgess is a stone cold average union player and will not set the game alight.

He'll be back in league right after the world cup final

As MD says.....he was always going to be in the squad. ...
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Re: Sam Burgess... : Thu Aug 27, 2015 2:24 pm  
the flying biscuit wrote:
I'm no expert on the sport but I think Carling is right.

He is less than a bit part player for England and only marginally more important for his club. ...

In my ill informed view Burgess is a stone cold average union player and will not set the game alight.

He'll be back in league right after the world cup final

As MD says.....he was always going to be in the squad. ...



I'm not a union watcher, but it does appear that they seem to sign players from league(see harris) and only give them 12 months or less to bed in, in time for world cups. Very poor planning.
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Re: Sam Burgess... : Thu Aug 27, 2015 3:21 pm  
Seems harsh on other players that Sam has come into England squad over others who've played centre all their careers,why be a bit player in RU when you're a star in league ?? Oh yeah Money!!!
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Re: Sam Burgess... : Thu Aug 27, 2015 3:49 pm  
He played well in the France game.

The problem.is he won't get enough of the ball to make an impact. In league he has plenty more opportunity to get the ball which is what he needs. His defence is solid and he has put in a few big hits in ru. Watching the France game he seemed to be communicating well with the team n getting em pumped up.

I hope he do es well for em in wc but decides to come after it
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Re: Sam Burgess... : Thu Aug 27, 2015 4:32 pm  
He's a better 6, than a centre. To be honest, if I were Luther Burrell, Billy Twelvetrees, or Kyle Eastmond I'd be pretty cheesed off.
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Re: Sam Burgess... : Thu Aug 27, 2015 5:11 pm  
Looks like I am on my own here but I hope he makes a real impact. Those RU journalist loons Stuart Barnes and Stephen Jones have been happily writing him off for the last 6 months and now Will Carling is weighing in. At least, Jonathon Davies is saying he is worth a punt.
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Re: Sam Burgess... : Thu Aug 27, 2015 5:26 pm  
Will Carling?? Dear me. He'd not have gotten a game for woolston u11s in his pomp. The bum chin looked like he was running in treacle....better than ratchford though (winky thing)
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Re: Sam Burgess... : Thu Aug 27, 2015 6:58 pm  
Jonny wilkinson is a big fan of burgess, and he knows when it comes to mental strength he's got it,, but being on 600,000 a year he was always making that squad,, but to be fair he has taken his chance when given it, and when Australia New Zealand South Africa come calling he won't shy away,, I'm hoping he makes an impact
,, first time I have watched the dark side of the force for years, and will be watching if he gets involved!!
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