Re: No Hill and Sims = No go forward : Mon Aug 03, 2015 8:07 pm  

3 CARRIES

Re: No Hill and Sims = No go forward : Mon Aug 03, 2015 8:10 pm  

Was very disappointed with England - he just looked off the pace and I didn't think he seemed abe to make the yards. Caught out by opposition footwork too.
I thought of him as a good 3rd prop but not based on that performance. Let's hope it's just a bad day at the office for him and he steps up to the plate next week.

Re: No Hill and Sims = No go forward : Mon Aug 03, 2015 8:17 pm  

England suffers because of the comparison fans will automatically make re Hill, ie come from a lower league side, and "hit the ground running". England needs a VERY STRONG end to season, and a v. good '16 season, otherwise he'll be at Wakefield/back in the Championship.
He's already blotted his copybook, re the Bob Carolgees pet impression

Re: No Hill and Sims = No go forward : Mon Aug 03, 2015 8:29 pm  

Those stats are shocking. However, asotasi has been doing that since he came yet his name is on the team sheet every week and it isn't him putting it on there. Neither does he decide to only play for about 15 minutes each game. Smith is not stupid and he is very loyal(too much sometimes)to his players, but I honestly don't see what he is doing with regards to this 'player'.

Re: No Hill and Sims = No go forward : Mon Aug 03, 2015 8:36 pm  

Exactly. You see the three carries thing is poor, very poor but all I hear on here and on the terraces is Roy only did fifteen minutes blah blah...he doesn't pick nor spell himself.

Re: No Hill and Sims = No go forward : Mon Aug 03, 2015 8:41 pm  

Moe syslak wrote:

Those stats are shocking. However, asotasi has been doing that since he came yet his name is on the team sheet every week and it isn't him putting it on there. Neither does he decide to only play for about 15 minutes each game. Smith is not stupid and he is very loyal(too much sometimes)to his players, but I honestly don't see what he is doing with regards to this 'player'.

My guess is he's trying to make the best of a pooh situation. He knows he's bought a dud, and paid a lot of money for the privilege. He's just trying to cover up the mess, by giving him a few minutes at a time.

We should've paid the lover off, and have done with it. We'd be better blooding someone from the U19s

Re: No Hill and Sims = No go forward : Mon Aug 03, 2015 8:50 pm  

Moe syslak wrote:

Those stats are shocking. However, asotasi has been doing that since he came yet his name is on the team sheet every week and it isn't him putting it on there. Neither does he decide to only play for about 15 minutes each game. Smith is not stupid and he is very loyal(too much sometimes)to his players, but I honestly don't see what he is doing with regards to this 'player'.

I guess TS has kept his faith with Asotasi hoping he will, at some point turn good. I thought he played his best game at Wigan last year in the playoff semifinal and would hit on from there. But no he certainly hasn't- he doesn't really seem to give a crap. Remember the Millennium Magic weekend last year v Saints, (one of his early games where you'd hope he would make some kind of mark) and there was some argie bargie; he blatantly didn't give a stuff about sticking up for his team mates. Contrast that with Sims who for me always gives 100%

Re: No Hill and Sims = No go forward : Mon Aug 03, 2015 9:17 pm  

Compared to Hills 18 carries, 39 tackles and 159 meters......bit of a difference!!!

[Fantastic Mr Catpiss]

Re: No Hill and Sims = No go forward : Mon Aug 03, 2015 9:54 pm  

Just watching the game back, it's Roy who let larroyer get his arm out for his try

Re: No Hill and Sims = No go forward : Mon Aug 03, 2015 11:28 pm  

So it's poor form to keep playing a player so clearly inept surely? The price tag should make no difference to his inclusion. Saying that up until sat Roy was playing 'relatively' well.