New Sponsor : Fri Jan 09, 2015 9:58 pm  

Are people here bothered about the new sponsor?

It doesn't bother me personally however I think lifting the ban is too far.

If its bringing in decent money that's cool with me, they're already associated with Saints and Celtic FC so..

Re: New Sponsor : Sat Jan 10, 2015 12:57 am  

Why not go the whole hog and sign Ched Evans while we're at it.

Re: New Sponsor : Sat Jan 10, 2015 6:14 am  

Excellent news and sensible decision, I wonder if smokers will abuse the confusion this will cause though - hope not. The other thing is, all it takes is a couple of idiots sub ohming and blowing clouds, and it will soon seem like a bad idea. As long as all vapers keep it sensible and considerate and keep to the low vapour gear, we'll be ok

Re: New Sponsor : Sat Jan 10, 2015 7:39 am  

It's a terrible decision for a sport and club promoting healthy lifestyles. With alcohol and betting you can say "Drink responsibly" and "Bet responsibly", which many do without becoming addicted.

For people who say "It's just water vapour" it's not. The vapour can still contain nicotine and other dangerous chemicals and metals. You just know that people will have cheap knock-off versions as well, which won't be low vapour and you don't know what they could contain.

A number of e-cigs have even exploded, so the club will allow potential explosive devices, which can damage the health of the user and others but you can't take in your own food and drink

Re: New Sponsor : Sat Jan 10, 2015 7:45 am  

Which dangerous chemicals and metals are these? The make up of eliquid is propylene glycol/vegetable glycerine mixture(both safe) flavourings (food grade)and nicotine (trace elements are present in the vapour, but again, not dangerous) Pretty simple. Any exploded batteries have come from cheap batteries being over charged or venting when overcharged. Never when someone is using them. Nothing like media panic is there? Every single negative press release related to vaping has come based on research background funded by tobacco companies. Strange that?

Re: New Sponsor : Sat Jan 10, 2015 8:23 am  

Timmy the Koi wrote:

Which dangerous chemicals and metals are these? The make up of eliquid is propylene glycol/vegetable glycerine mixture, flavourings and nicotine. Pretty simple. Any exploded batteries have come from cheap batteries being over charged or venting when overcharged. Never when someone is using them. Nothing like media panic is there? Every single negative press release related to vaping has come based on research background funded by tobacco companies. Strange that?

Vapour can contain Acetaldehyde, Cadmium, Formaldehyde - used in embalming, Diethylene glycol - used in anti freeze, Isoprene, Lead, Nickel, Nicotine, Tin, Copper, Nickel, and Silver.

And a lot of the big tobacco companies actually own e-cig companies.

Re: New Sponsor : Sat Jan 10, 2015 8:51 am  

Shouldn't tarnish all vapes with the same brush, I trust a Manchester based company more than one that's importing them. That's when you dont know what's in them!

Still, they should ban them in the stadium until there's solid research done.

Re: New Sponsor : Sat Jan 10, 2015 8:55 am  

Diethylene Glycol has been found in ONE pre filled cartridge in all studies, and at 1% level. It is not used in eliquid. The trace metals you mention have been found in some cartomizers(the tanks used to put eliquid into) but were way below dangerous levels even based on the equivalent inhalation levels to 2 packs of cigarettes per day (around 200 puffs). These traces were present in the inhalation, and are not expelled in the vapour.

Re: New Sponsor : Sat Jan 10, 2015 9:04 am  

All this when the stadium allows alcohol, the most dangerous drug of all

Re: New Sponsor : Sat Jan 10, 2015 10:07 am  

Vespid_Wire wrote:

All this when the stadium allows alcohol, the most dangerous drug of all

Exactly, not to mention all the vehicle exhaust fumes we as a nation encounter every day....much more dangerous than tobacco smoke in whatever guise.