Re: Restructure Revealed! : Thu Jul 24, 2014 3:06 pm  

This really isn't that complicated. Not much here that we didn't know anyway, I'm right behind these changes. Not convinced about the changes to the Challenge Cup though, win four games and you've won the thing? Seems to devalue it a bit for me.

Re: Restructure Revealed! : Thu Jul 24, 2014 3:26 pm  

MarginMeter wrote:

Sorry if I'm being slow or missing something - there's a lot to take in and it's a hot day - but how does that work? The top four can't all play each other away

Yup, that makes no sense at all.

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Re: Restructure Revealed! : Thu Jul 24, 2014 3:28 pm  

Well, just to focus on SL - we have been moaning for a long time that the playoffs have become a joke because it devalued the point of the regular rounds. Surely this fixes this ? As Deckchair points out, you have to be top 4 to qualify and its a very simple 1st v 4th, 2nd v 3rd to pick the finalists. I am quite happy to accept a bit of complexity to achieve a more equitable result. Anyway, its not exactly quantum mechanics, just a lot to remember.

Re: Restructure Revealed! : Thu Jul 24, 2014 3:53 pm  

One thing which may seem a small point but which grates a bit of me is that theyhaven't taken the chance to sort out the "23rd game" anomaly, where you could find yourself playing Wigan 3 times or Wakefield 3 times, depending on how the smoke comes out of the chimney. If the weekly rounds are going to be more important - and look how close some sides are this year anyway - then it seems even more random in terms of fairness. If you need a Magic Weekend why not have it as the first round of games after the split, so that each team in that split stage can play 3 home and 3 away games, and one game at a neutral venue. It would need to be done a bit differently and wouldn't be able to be in May, but it would even things out a bit and the games should all be more competitive.

Re: Restructure Revealed! : Thu Jul 24, 2014 4:08 pm  

MarginMeter wrote:

If you need a Magic Weekend why not have it as the first round of games after the split, so that each team in that split stage can play 3 home and 3 away games, and one game at a neutral venue. It would need to be done a bit differently and wouldn't be able to be in May, but it would even things out a bit and the games should all be more competitive.

This is a very good idea, the only reason it isn't happening like this is presumably it would be around August time and close to the Challenge Cup final.

We also need it to be decided whether these 'Super 8' fixtures will be included in season tickets or not. If they are, we might see a hike in prices that speccys might not like.

Finally, can we not go down the route of 'bonus points' for losing teams as might be the case. Don't reward a team for losing.

Re: Restructure Revealed! : Thu Jul 24, 2014 5:10 pm  

I was cycling as I read the article but it seems fine to me. The top 4 going into the playoffs sounds great to me as one win and you're there.

As for the rest of the stuff, its not complicated, but if for some reason you can't work it out just WAIT until next season. Enjoy this season and stop worrying about something you dont have to organise. It'll play out itself and you can pick it up yourself.

Re: Restructure Revealed! : Thu Jul 24, 2014 7:29 pm  

Super league 12 teams, Championship 14 teams ,total 26 teams ....how can that split into 3 groups of 8 ?

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Re: Restructure Revealed! : Thu Jul 24, 2014 7:53 pm  

ninearches wrote:

Super league 12 teams, Championship 14 teams ,total 26 teams ....how can that split into 3 groups of 8 ?

I think you will find it is 12 teams in the Championship as well. They are relegating 5 teams out of the Championship this year.

Re: Restructure Revealed! : Thu Jul 24, 2014 8:11 pm  

1/4, semis for the challenge cup all at wembley?

Re: Restructure Revealed! : Thu Jul 24, 2014 9:36 pm  

garyhulsefan wrote:

This is a very good idea, the only reason it isn't happening like this is presumably it would be around August time and close to the Challenge Cup final.

We also need it to be decided whether these 'Super 8' fixtures will be included in season tickets or not. If they are, we might see a hike in prices that speccys might not like.

Finally, can we not go down the route of 'bonus points' for losing teams as might be the case. Don't reward a team for losing.

I emailed the club a while back when I was looking at the season ticket standing order, they advised that they anticipate the Super 8 Series will be included. I believe Leeds have confirmed their season ticket structure already with the mini series included, I don't think they have upped prices.

There is great potential for selling a Super 8 mini season ticket.