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Re: Thoughts on Koukash : Wed Sep 14, 2016 8:48 am  
full of hot air, like to ask him when i see him
1 wheres the shop we were promised in the lowry Centre ?? (were not even trusted to sell our own merchandise because we dont pay our suppliers)
2 water park ??
3 training facilities near the ground and a hotel ??
4 we still letting our young talent to go elsewhere when he said them days were over ?? worryingly im hearing evalds is off at the end of season whether we stay up or relegated & MK the reason again.
First thing i learnt in business is never promise anything you cant deliver, never let the customer down as they remember that more than the 100s of times you delivered on goods/promises.
his usual excuse is the fans not turning up but the way i see it supporting salford atm is like being in an abusive relationship and I keep going back for more but sooner or later its got to stop, 30 years ive been a supporter and ive never felt this bad, its a chore going to games now and shouldn't be like that.
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Re: Thoughts on Koukash : Wed Sep 14, 2016 11:40 am  
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full of hot air, like to ask him when i see him
1 wheres the shop we were promised in the lowry Centre ?? (were not even trusted to sell our own merchandise because we dont pay our suppliers)
2 water park ??
3 training facilities near the ground and a hotel ??
4 we still letting our young talent to go elsewhere when he said them days were over ?? worryingly im hearing evalds is off at the end of season whether we stay up or relegated & MK the reason again.
First thing i learnt in business is never promise anything you cant deliver, never let the customer down as they remember that more than the 100s of times you delivered on goods/promises.
his usual excuse is the fans not turning up but the way i see it supporting salford atm is like being in an abusive relationship and I keep going back for more but sooner or later its got to stop, 30 years ive been a supporter and ive never felt this bad, its a chore going to games now and shouldn't be like that.



Points 1 to 3 were all promised once he purchased the stadium.Why would he want to purchase the stadium,now?

The appointment of Noble would appear to be on the advice of the RFL - just as Noble went to Crusaders when they began with the 'dodgy' owners at Wrexham,and he has gone to Toronto,Canada,with the new owners of the Wolfpack - almost certainly on advice of the RFL.

The guy has had nothing but bad luck and bad timing since Noble and his signings started to arrive.
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Re: Thoughts on Koukash : Wed Sep 14, 2016 12:25 pm  
• First and foremost I think he’s a liar. He is a Doctor of Engineering and has a Masters in bullshit, What happened to all his promises? I mean wasn’t he going to sue Gareth Hock and Leigh, if they played him against us in the cup? Club shop / state of the art academy / NRL team / Young talent never leaving again – the list is actually endless.

• I don’t think he’s put as much money into the club as he makes out,. As far as I am aware he hasn't paid a penny back of the inherited cva, I believe it is actually deferred till December. It is then he has to start paying back the large sum owed to council. Any coincidence that he is now looking to jump ship, months before it is due? I also think the reason for not changing the club badge on the stadium following the re-brand is purely a money issue.

• He is impossible to work for, coaching staff / to players do I blame anyone for leaving, no. Do I believe the players when they tell stories of him not paying? Absolutely.

• The RFL agenda is tiresome, im beginning to think he’s exaggerating it so he has a ‘reason to leave’

• He appointed his own independent tribunal and still lost, but he continues to blame the RFL?

• He has absolutely no marketing strategy what so ever, he is reactive rather than proactive. If he thinks fans really have no excuse because he has reduced tickets to £10 for a relegation battle with London, he is more insane than I thought.

• Attendances have dropped to an all-time low, after the points deduction which may I add was HIS fault. And now he is blaming the fans, again I think the reason he is highlighting this is so he has an excuse to why he has jumped ship.

• When confronted with any serious questions ie his interview with Dave Woods on backchat, he makes a joke of it. When faced with difficult and challenging questions on social media he will block you. And you don’t even have to abuse him, it’s just that he doesn’t agree with you! I have asked him for an interview when he leaves, as I have many a question I would like answering. Will he take me up on it, I very much doubt it.

• In fact didn’t he once make a ridiculous suggestion that the council actually owe Salford £800k – what ever happened to that?


I mean he himself said he has been a miserable failure as owner of Salford, well he is bang on there.
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Re: Thoughts on Koukash : Wed Sep 14, 2016 12:33 pm  
Maybe purchasing the stadium should've been number 1 on the list, as it was never going to happen, lip service just like the original points 1-3.

Who knows if he'd have gone about things the right way, gotten the rebrand right, got the right coach (TS) in from the start, employed a proven chief exec, things could've been a hell of a lot different right now 3 years down the line.
All hindsight I know but crowds could've been easily averaging 7k and Koukash may have realised his dream this season.
Instead, yes we have had a great team this year and played the best rugby for as long as I can remember but where are we.....
1. Probably in the MPG with the potential of relegation.
2. The owner leaving.
3. Most of our current squad which we've finally managed to see playing as a team will probably leave.

Oh what it's like to be a Salford fan.
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Re: Thoughts on Koukash : Wed Sep 14, 2016 1:58 pm  
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• When confronted with any serious questions ie his interview with Dave Woods on backchat, he makes a joke of it. When faced with difficult and challenging questions on social media he will block you. And you don’t even have to abuse him, it’s just that he doesn’t agree with you! I have asked him for an interview when he leaves, as I have many a question I would like answering. Will he take me up on it, I very much doubt it

i questioned him on the marketing and suggested he listened to steve gills interview on radio yorks and guess what ?? next day im blocked on twitter.......
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Re: Thoughts on Koukash : Wed Sep 14, 2016 6:24 pm  
Sheens was is man to sort it out.Sheens goes because he as faith in Ian Watson.
If Koucash told you Manchester was in England you would right away go and consult a map.The only thing you can't blame him for is the ground situation.That is down to purely and simply Mr Salford.
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Re: Thoughts on Koukash : Thu Sep 15, 2016 6:36 am  
I have it on very very good authority he puts in £45000 a week into the club to keep it afloat and had had to since he took over. Don't ask me how it's so much as I questioned it too but there it is. I also know that he felt very loyal to sheens and would have definitely stayed at least until his contract was up.... Now he's gone??
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Re: Thoughts on Koukash : Thu Sep 15, 2016 8:42 am  
Mr Scholes. wrote:
I don’t think he’s put as much money into the club as he makes out,. As far as I am aware he hasn't paid a penny back of the inherited cva, I believe it is actually deferred till December. It is then he has to start paying back the large sum owed to council. Any coincidence that he is now looking to jump ship, months before it is due?


The CVA is being paid off as a liability of the club, which Koukash certainly keeps afloat. The repayment is circa £25,000 a month, and considerable administrative and legal fees are added every year. The proof of this is on the Companies House website.

However, you are right – payments were suspended in August last year with the agreement of the creditors in the CVA. The suspension can last no later than December 2016.
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