Re: David Tarry gone : Sat Jun 16, 2012 6:00 pm  

Original Salford City Red wrote:

If Tina Wilkinson Bell was sharing an office with David Tarry before he left then surely she will still be using it at this moment in time?

Does that cause you a problem for you?

No it does cause me problem,but like I have said Mr Tarry had a office of is own at Barton.
I would think the new gaffer would be in that office,and I would hope that person is from outside the organisation.
Just my opinion.

Re: David Tarry gone : Sat Jun 16, 2012 7:56 pm  

EX.SALF.UNI wrote:

If you've worked there and that was your experience, fair enough. If not, neither of us are fit to judge. The cold hard fact of the matter is we have no idea how easy or difficult the job is/was. The consultant brought in to review the place clearly has an opinion but having worked through a similar review at my workplace a year ago I can categorically tell you they're not always right.
I guess time will tell if it's easily replaced.

Oh goody. So folk can still blindly discuss how terrible he is in the role they know little about?

Presumably you never criticise the government of the day because you can't possibly know the intricacies of every single decision they make? You talk some rubbish.

Dave Tarry was a terrible CEO and we're infinitely better off without him. If there are people on here who can't see that then I'd suggest they don't know their booty from their elbow where Salford RLFC is concerned.

Even the normal club stooges on here haven't offered their forthright support of him.

Re: David Tarry gone : Sat Jun 16, 2012 9:05 pm  

Well Walshy I presume I am one of the stooges you refer to but my support is the Board as a whole - or more pointedly the Directors who have financially kept the club alive for 30 years.

I have never been a fan of Tarry at all and I am pleased to see him elsewhere.

Re: David Tarry gone : Sat Jun 16, 2012 10:26 pm  

Walshovski wrote:

You talk some rubbish.

Fella he's so wrapped up in it a tramp could keep warm in winter.

Re: David Tarry gone : Sun Jun 17, 2012 11:54 am  

Early Bath wrote:

Well Walshy I presume I am one of the stooges you refer to but my support is the Board as a whole - or more pointedly the Directors who have financially kept the club alive for 30 years.

I have never been a fan of Tarry at all and I am pleased to see him elsewhere.

But surely you can accept that it is possible to a) Support and praise the board for the financial contribution they have made over the last 30 years and b) Question the poor decision making of those same people over the same period. These are not mutually exclusive positions. The board could have spent far less than it has if better decision making had been in operation throughout those years.

You've just proved that very point yourself by saying you support the board but don't like Dave Tarry, in essence saying the board has had someone occupying one of, if not, the biggest roles at the cub for 30 years that was poor at his job. By analogy this shows the decision making process at the top of the club clearly went awry on this issue.

Another glaring example is the 4.5 year contract given to McRae - an appalling waste of money that cost us immeasurably an almost all fronts. That decision has never been justified by whoever made it.

PS I'm happy to be corrected on this but I don't recall you voicing much concern over David Tarry on this forum while he was in office, which I find peculiar if you've never been a fan of his.

Re: David Tarry gone : Sun Jun 17, 2012 10:47 pm  

Walshovski wrote:

But surely you can accept that it is possible to a) Support and praise the board for the financial contribution they have made over the last 30 years and b) Question the poor decision making of those same people over the same period. These are not mutually exclusive positions. The board could have spent far less than it has if better decision making had been in operation throughout those years.

You've just proved that very point yourself by saying you support the board but don't like Dave Tarry, in essence saying the board has had someone occupying one of, if not, the biggest roles at the cub for 30 years that was poor at his job. By analogy this shows the decision making process at the top of the club clearly went awry on this issue.

Another glaring example is the 4.5 year contract given to McRae - an appalling waste of money that cost us immeasurably an almost all fronts. That decision has never been justified by whoever made it.

PS I'm happy to be corrected on this but I don't recall you voicing much concern over David Tarry on this forum while he was in office, which I find peculiar if you've never been a fan of his.

Matter of conjecture isnt it as neither of us in a close enough position to comment.

My own view and I know its shared by others is that maybe JAW is too loyal and maybe too close to some of the staff around him and the independent strategic review will certainly have emphasised that situation. He needs more `quality` back up staff.

Re McRae - totally agree there and it has cost us immeasurably in my view too.

JAW is Captain of the Ship and its his loot which has kept it afloat so we all have to accept his decisions whether they are right or wrong.

Maybe after the strategic review we will see a new properly qualified CE inserted. I just feel that DT has been one of the luckiest men in the world to have been in such a sheltered position for the past 30 years.

Re: David Tarry gone : Mon Jun 18, 2012 8:29 am  

Early Bath wrote:

JAW is Captain of the Ship and its his loot which has kept it afloat so we all have to accept his decisions whether they are right or wrong.

So because he's keeping the club afloat we should all stand idly by and watch him make decisions that could be to the detriment of the club without saying anything?

Putting money into any club or business does not equal the right to make poor decisions without being questioned. Especially when better decision making could have cost Salford and, indeed, JAW, less money over the years.

Re: David Tarry gone : Mon Jun 18, 2012 8:57 am  

I am sure the review highlighted the fact that the CE role obviously changed since the move to Barton. I would imagine the position at the Willows was more justified with the Stadium Management duties that don’t exist anymore.

I think the review would have recommended the need for putting the clubs off-field resources into recruiting a professional and experienced sales/marketing person(s).

The new stadium will have changed the whole off-field organisation into solely a PR, Sales and Marketing operation.

Re: David Tarry gone : Mon Jun 18, 2012 12:25 pm  

Jibmeister wrote:

Early Bath wrote:

JAW is Captain of the Ship and its his loot which has kept it afloat so we all have to accept his decisions whether they are right or wrong.

So because he's keeping the club afloat we should all stand idly by and watch him make decisions that could be to the detriment of the club without saying anything?

Putting money into any club or business does not equal the right to make poor decisions without being questioned. Especially when better decision making could have cost Salford and, indeed, JAW, less money over the years.

When you have control of any company as JAW does with Salford you can do what you like. You know that as well as me. Its a democratic Country so if you wish to voice your concerns then you should write to him.

Re: David Tarry gone : Mon Jun 18, 2012 12:30 pm  

Early Bath wrote:

Matter of conjecture isnt it as neither of us in a close enough position to comment.

My own view and I know its shared by others is that maybe JAW is too loyal and maybe too close to some of the staff around him and the independent strategic review will certainly have emphasised that situation. He needs more `quality` back up staff.

Re McRae - totally agree there and it has cost us immeasurably in my view too.

JAW is Captain of the Ship and its his loot which has kept it afloat so we all have to accept his decisions whether they are right or wrong.

Maybe after the strategic review we will see a new properly qualified CE inserted. I just feel that DT has been one of the luckiest men in the world to have been in such a sheltered position for the past 30 years.

You seem to be suggesting that we shouldn't be able to challenge the decision of the person who owns our club because they own it. Very strange outlook indeeed.

I agree wholeheartedly on Tarry getting with murder for 30 years.